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#239 - Intel Bin Laden Spy on Hunting "The Ghost" | Shawnee Delaney

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6649 Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2024

⏱️ 187 minutes

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(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Shawnee Delaney is an Ex DIA clandestine ops officer, expert on cybersecurity, insider threat program development, surveillance, & investigation. SHAWNEE'S LINKS: Website: https://www.vaillancegroup.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spyex/ EPISODE LINKS - Julian Dorey PODCAST MERCH: https://juliandorey.myshopify.com/ - Support our Show on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey - BUY Guest’s Books & Films IN MY AMAZON STORE: https://amzn.to/3RPu952 FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey LISTEN to Julian Dorey Podcast Spotify ▶ https://open.spotify.com/show/5skaSpDzq94Kh16so3c0uz Apple Podcasts ▶ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trendifier-with-julian-dorey/id1531416289 JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE - Episode 97 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/2PUs7l2jW9c - Episode 107 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/7jNz3-WPV5I - Episode 150 - Andrew Bustamante: https://youtu.be/dUlc2d6fDzg - Episode 198 - Joby Warrick: ​​https://youtu.be/F1fhuwCT9YE - Episode 134 - Joby Warrick: https://youtu.be/Xaz7JfTLFQE - Episode 162 - Mark Turner: https://youtu.be/rJng36M3BcI - Episode 197 - Tommy G: https://youtu.be/tO0UFfo54KA - Episode 216 - Danny Hall: https://youtu.be/49h6YOxiTrI - Episode 217 - Danny Hall: https://youtu.be/9HVd2G3NvBo ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 - Wanting always to be Spy, Obsession w/ Spycraft 11:21 - What is DIA, Spy Training & Operational Tasks, Jim Lawler CIA Story, Spy Hypnotization 19:47 - Moving to Egypt to Train in Language, Attempting to Join DIA Again & Counter Terrorism Study 26:01 - Espionage Day 1 Training/Vetting, Heading to Iraq (Mosul), Sneaking into Syria w. Hezbollah 35:01 - Hezbollah in South America Operations, Belly Dancing into Syria, Heading to Iraq & Challenges 46:53 - 2nd Tour in Mosul (Small Budgets), DIA Operations in the Middle East 51:01 - Developing Leads & Returning to US & Working “The Farm” 58:22 - How People Get Cut, Edward Snowden Debate 01:03:01 - Havana Syndrome Story, Updated News on Havana Syndrome! 01:11:50 - Leaving Farm to Mosul & Difficulty Working w/ CIA, Targeting Assets 01:21:31 - Firing Assets & Working as a Spy 01:31:47 - Xi Jinping Origin Story, Anthrax Attacks Story 01:36:34 - Middle East’s Most Unique Group (The Kurds) 01:41:23 - Hunting/Tracking Playing Cards of Iraq, Spreading Democracy Debate 01:55:19 - Making Sources 02:04:21 - Tracking Bin Laden, Interrogating Bin Laden’s Source 02:15:49 - DIA Sharing Intel w/ CIA to Hunt Bin Laden 02:23:14 - Deep Dive Research into Suspect, Kenya Trip (Bin Laden Theory) 02:29:22 - The Day of Catching Bin Laden 02:36:51 - Getting Translators Out & Funding Millions to Taliban, Fall of Afghanistan 02:41:27 - Working in Gambia Story 02:48:21 - Hezbollah Operations w/ Drug & Violence, Iran Situation 02:55:07 - Israel/Middle East Dilemma & Finding Solution 02:57:31 - Leaving DIA (Spy Agency) & Starting Company, Any Major Regrets 03:03:35 - Find Shawnee CREDITS: - Host & Producer: Julian Dorey - Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.instagram.com/allaman.docyou/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 239 - Shawnee Delaney Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But over the course of months and spent literally our meetings were like nine hours.

0:04.7

They were these marathon meeting.

0:06.5

They were exhausting.

0:07.1

What would he talk about?

0:08.1

His motivations had changed.

0:10.2

He was pro-Al-Qaeda.

0:12.2

He had things happen in his life where his motivations changed.

0:14.7

He saw the light.

0:15.6

After September 11th, he was like, oh my God, what are we doing?

0:18.3

He had family influence that was like, what are you doing?

0:21.0

This is not okay. This is a guy who, I'm just using an example who just gave who, you know,

0:25.4

wanted stuff like Sharia law and he's talking to an American woman case officer, probably not

0:30.3

wearing a hijab. Yes, no, wasn't. There was, there was one point because it was like eating me up.

0:35.6

Why? Like he talked to my friend. My friend was a dude.

0:38.1

And I straight up asked him, why are you talking to me? I am a white Western woman. I am the

0:42.1

antithesis of everything that you believe in. So I asked him and he kind of just sat back and he

0:49.1

kind of got this little smirk and went, why not?

0:59.4

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1:06.8

Thank you.

1:08.6

We finally got one of the famous Bin Laden hunters in the studio.

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