Hello and welcome again to Captain Gantzres Focus I'm Cy Kellett your host and this time

an apologetic defense of a simple life of faith, I guess that's how we could put it,

a defense of a simple life of faith or a life of simple faith or just simply being faithful. We'll go with any of those. Our guest,

Father Hugh Barber. Hello, Father. Father, former Pryor of St. Michael's Abbey in Orange County,

a Norbertine priest, and also our chaplain.

It's, okay, we've got this thing about full active participation. We've got this thing about full active participation.

We've got this thing about everybody's a missionary.

We're all missionaries, especially that's been emphasized since the

Sakavatican Council, a church of the lay faithful more than ever I guess taking their place since the Second

Vatican Council so we can sometimes have the notion that everyone's got to be a combination theologian and liturgist that you have an apologist

An apologist right like you got you got to have these intellectual tools in order to be fully Christian, I guess.

Is that right or is there some way we should be maybe a little suspicious of that.

Well, more than a little suspicious.

That would just be outright wrong.

Oh, okay.

You know.

Wrong, you know.

Because by that, by that description, no one ever lived in authentic Christian life,

hardly anybody.

Yeah, right. And even among the people who do have theological and liturgical and canonical and apologetic qualifications, they would be

enough of them so de-setifying that they wouldn't qualify either just because they have the normal

human- That's an awful narrow door.

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