Welcome to the Tuck Policy podcast. I'm Ashken Kazarin. On today's show, we're going to talk about

nationalizing the 5G networks. Back in January of 2018, there was a report that Axis released with this PowerPoint presentation

floating around the White House that suggested nationalizing the 5G network in America. Just now in June of

2018, Donald Trump's campaign manager Brad Parzcal tweeted out that it's time for America to have a

single 5G network for all carriers.

The days of drop calls, slow speeds, and no service need to end. It's time for U.S. to have

the world's best sell network. We have Baron Zoka, president of Tech Freedom, and the biggest fan

of not going the USSR route, joining us to discuss this proposal.

Baron, thank you for coming.

Let's start with what 5G is,

because I'm sure people have heard about it,

but might not fully understand what it is.

Yeah, well, first of all, America already has the world's best cellular network.

That's the 4G network.

They're private networks that have been built by Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon across the country.

They provide data service that can range up to 17, 20 megabits per second, sometimes faster,

but, you know, it's enough to stream video.

You generally have your mobile plan.

Everyone knows this today. Some people actually use that as their only data plan. And you can, of course, tether your laptop to your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot. But it's not a perfect substitute for a home broadband connection for everyone. And it relies on very large towers that are, they have what are called

macro cells. They're big. They are usually a few kilometers apart. That's the 4G network.

The 5G network has not been built yet. There are some experimental deployments going on. The technology

standards are being developed now, and we are anticipating

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