Post-factum, after the moment of grasping Christ, they said, weren't our hearts burning within us?

He was speaking to us on the road, opening the scriptures to us, just as he opened the eyes, he opened the scriptures.

But this tells us that something has been happening all along, and he's been working on them,

unbeknownst to them.

To me, this is absolutely fascinating because you have to assume if Christ is in that state

of intense luminosity imperceptible to their eyes, that this working in them, this fire burning in them, is of the same kind.

And this is, in fact, how the early Christian tradition reads it.

Music This is Jonathan Pejot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

So hello everyone. Christ is risen. We are still in Bright Week, and we thought it would be a wonderful moment to look at the story of the road to Emmaus. And I'm very pleased to be with Father Bogdan. Father Bogdan Bukur. I'm not sure. Is that how you pronounced your last name? I'm sorry.

And Father Bogdan teaches patristics at St. Vladimir's Seminary. And he really suggested that we might look at the story of the road to Amas to help us understand, you know, understand or turn around the mystery of the resurrected Christ, kind of understand how the church fathers,

especially Sendeferim, the Syrian and fathers like him interpret scripture and what it means for us today as we encounter the world around us. So Father Bogdan, thanks for talking to me.

I'm happy to meet you. Thank you very much for having me. Very excited about this.

And so the story of the road to meus is is one of

the very strange stories in scripture and i pointed it often i pointed at it often with people

who kind of ask me you know what does the resurrection look like when someone says when someone

kind of takes for granted that the resurrection is just a dead body you you know, sitting up in the grave and walking out, I say, well, there's stories in scripture that tend to want to imply that there's much more going on. And the story of the disciples, meaning Christ, of the road to Amas is definitely one of them because they don't recognize him, then he kind of, then they recognize him,

you know, and then they take, it's a communion and it's all these things kind of coming together

in the story. So tell us a little bit about your own thoughts on this, on this very particular

story in scripture. Well, I'm fascinated by it, like all of us.

This is one of the stories that we read cyclically at Matins, at the morning service on Sundays, in the Orthodox Church.

And we all read it.

Orthodox and non-Orthodox Christians or non-Christians as we read scripture,

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