What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

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I was immediately captivated because you started the book with this story. And the story kind of sells you on the entire purpose of the book. It's like a really smart way

to start the book. And you talk about how you had this opportunity to meet kind of like a big

shot investor, financial professional, and like this was your chance to essentially learn how to be

successful from this guy. You asked him all these questions and you ended up getting all of these

very generic, you know, responses back, you know, like good things come to those who wait,

that kind of like dribble. And then your time was up and he left the room and you're like,

I wasted my shot, you know, like, how could I talk to this person better? And it makes me think

of this quote that like luck is where preparation meets opportunity. Like that was an opportunity, but you weren't prepared to know how to talk to somebody such that you learn like the uniquely valuable stuff that they have to offer. And that's a really cool topic. That's what your entire book is about. It's called Stop Asking Questions. I should introduce you here, Andrew Warner. You're the host of the Mixergy podcast. One of the only started podcasts that I have listened to extensively, and I think the first one, I think I was listening to you back in college in like 2009. Is that right? Is that right? Is it should you that old? Yeah. It's been around for a long time. Yeah, it's been around for a ton of time. It's inspired, I think, probably millions of people. Welcome to the Indie Actors podcast, Andrew. Thanks for having me on. It's been a long time in the making. You and I have hung out in person more than a few times. You know what? I liked you so much when we hung out in person. I like everybody, but I liked you even more. And then I walked away and I told my wife and she said, so who'd you meet? And I showed a photo. her photo and she goes oh yeah looks like such a good guy

like him and then actually she said something like about how how good you look but I can also see that

it was there's something about you that makes you just a likable person and someone who people feel

liked by and I realized oh it wasn't just me it's just who Cortland is and I think you naturally are liked by and I realized, oh, it wasn't just me. It's just who Cortland is.

And I think you naturally are like that. And I wonder, actually, here's what I wondered,

walking away from it. Is it because you did so well with Stripe and life is like organized

and you got a good mission here? Or is it that you're naturally like that? Were you like that

in those years when you were

suffering, when the business wasn't working well? Yeah, I don't know if I would say I'm a naturally

likable person. I think I think that I am very, I'm a very agreeable person. I am very

agreeable to people who I don't know very well. And I think I'm overly disagreeable to people who I do know very well. So I think I create a really good first impression. Oh, you'd be a horrible boyfriend is what you mean, but a great let's get together. I'm a terrible boyfriend. Great. All right. But I had the same impression of you because I listen to your podcast so much. And like, I don't know, like an extremely high energy person and I love people who have a lot of energy and you're very interesting like you don't want to talk about boring shit and I love that too like life is too short to talk about the weather every conversation oh we had such great now think about I won't reveal the stuff that we talked about because it was so personal. But it was like, if I just

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