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231. Is Migration a Basic Human Right?

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🗓️ 17 December 2015

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

The argument for open borders is compelling -- and deeply problematic.

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0:00.0

When Naveen first arrived in America, she had one big question, where are all the Americans?

0:13.8

I don't see any American people, not a lot, on the Spanish, Chinese, Indian, Polish people,

0:23.6

everywhere I see immigrant people.

0:25.9

She came here from Egypt with her two kids in 2013 on a tourist visa.

0:30.8

Her husband's visa, she says, didn't come through.

0:33.9

So Naveen moved in with her mother, her sister, and her sister's kids in Queens, New York.

0:40.4

We are Christian, we are a coptic or a stalks.

0:43.4

Being a coptic Christian in Muslim majority Egypt was never easy, and as the government grew

0:49.3

more Islamist, it became outright dangerous.

0:53.0

Naveen, who's 35 years old, says she left Egypt after being threatened by a man who accused

0:59.6

her of giving his sister a Bible.

1:02.7

And he kept calling me to just tell me I will kill you, I will kill your children.

1:09.4

So I get here and we decided to come here.

1:15.9

She says this kind of threat is common.

1:17.8

They take the children and maybe they kill, they ask for money.

1:21.8

So I scared about my children first.

1:29.0

When her tourist visa ran out, Naveen applied for political asylum to help from a friend

1:33.9

in her church.

1:35.3

After more than a year in the US, she and her kids were granted asylum, but her husband

1:40.7

is still in Egypt.

1:41.7

It's so hard, so hard, I need them, they need them.

1:48.1

Because you know, it's responsibility, pick responsibility, their age, they need their

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