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The Shawn Ryan Show

#231 Gerard Barron - CIA Project Azorian & Deep Sea Mining That Could Change the World

The Shawn Ryan Show

Shawn Ryan Show

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.938.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Gerard Barron, born in Queensland, Australia, is the Co-Founder, Chairman, and CEO of The Metals Company, a position he has held since 2017. A seasoned entrepreneur with a track record in battery technology, media, and future-oriented resource development, Barron leads the company's efforts to harvest polymetallic nodules from the deep ocean floor, providing sustainable sources of critical metals like nickel, copper, cobalt, and manganese for electric vehicles and renewable energy.  He previously co-founded DeepGreen in 2011 and assumed full control in 2017, guiding it through a public listing and partnerships to advance environmentally responsible deep-sea mining as an alternative to land-based extraction.  Barron testified before the U.S. Congress in April 2025 on national security and critical minerals, emphasizing the strategic importance of ocean resources. He advocates for innovation in clean tech, reducing mining's ecological footprint, and securing supply chains for the global energy transition, often speaking at forums like the St. Gallen Symposium and GESDA.  Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors:  ⁠https://americanfinancing.net/srs⁠ NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 866-781-8900, for details about credit costs and terms. ⁠https://betterhelp.com/srs⁠ This episode is sponsored. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/srs and get on your way to being your best self. ⁠https://bruntworkwear.com – USE CODE SRS⁠ ⁠https://bunkr.life – USE CODE SRS⁠ Go to https://bunkr.life/SRS and use code “SRS” to get your 25% off your family plan. ⁠https://calderalab.com/srs⁠ Use code SRS for 20% off your first order. ⁠https://shawnlikesgold.com⁠ ⁠https://helixsleep.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://patriotmobile.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://ROKA.com – USE CODE SRS⁠ ⁠https://shopify.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://simplisafe.com/srs⁠ Gerard Barron Links: The Metals Company - ⁠https://metals.co⁠ X - ⁠https://x.com/gtbgtb⁠ LinkedIn - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerardbarron Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jared Barron, welcome to the show, man.

0:08.0

Such a privilege to be here.

0:12.0

It's privilege for me. Thank you. Thank you for coming.

0:15.0

You first popped up on my radar from mutual friend, Cole Fackler from GBRS.

0:26.2

And so we started looking India and been interviewing a couple of different guys that have been mining different areas of the universe, I guess.

0:29.8

And so I haven't talked to anybody doing it under the sea.

0:34.9

So I thought this would be, I'm just fascinated by innovators and what you guys are doing.

0:39.9

So I really appreciate you coming.

0:42.6

Well, appreciate the chance to talk to on your platform to a new audience.

0:48.9

Perfect. Well, everybody starts with an introduction. Here we go.

0:53.5

Jared Barron, entrepreneur hailing from a Queensland, Australia dairy farm.

0:58.5

Built global companies across media, technology, battery manufacturing, and resource development,

1:05.2

chairman and CEO of the metals company, leading the charge in deep sea mining.

1:10.5

A first principles thinker committed to resource extraction with minimal impact on people in nature,

1:16.9

a global traveler splitting time between London, California, and Tonga.

1:23.2

Where the fuck is Tonga?

1:26.1

Well, I should correct that a tiny bit.

1:29.9

It's more, you know, Tonga is a beautiful Pacific Island country,

1:34.3

but I should mention Tonga and Nauru,

1:37.0

which is also an even smaller country,

1:39.9

Little Island in the Pacific.

1:43.8

But look, it's a it's a pretty, I'm a pretty

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