Welcome to the British History Podcast. My name is Jamie and this is episode 231, Anglo-Saxon

Economics and Money with Professor Rory Naisman. This show is ad-free due to member support

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about the price of a latte per month. And thank you very much to Candace, Kisee and

Nicole for signing up already. Now this episode is going to be a little bit different because

it's an interview. It's also an interview on the road and unfortunately it involved

the mic that it looks like TSA broke. So the sound quality is going to be a little less

than what you're used to. I did the best I could to clean it up but broken mics are

in addition this was during our trip where I defended my PhD and I had actually defended

it about 24 hours before and thanks to Jetlag we hadn't really slept so I was probably

about 36 hours awake by the time we were interviewing this poor professor. And you're

going to hear this actually in how I end up asking questions. So I ended up kind of accidentally

falling back into lawyer mode a couple times and well deposing poor professor Naismith and

he was very kind about it and didn't seem to mind all that much. But if my questions

sound a little bit funky a couple times that's because I was pretty punch drunk while

this was all happening. So before we begin why don't we set the scene for what this

was like because it was actually kind of adorable. So professor Naismith invited us up to his

home in Cambridge that day and when we got there he invited us out to his sunny little

kitchen and we sat around his nice round little kitchen table and we had this conversation.

Naismith is this very young energetic guy and I could tell whenever we hit on a question

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