How did you end up winning the Rugby World Cup with South Africa?

England who faced South Africa.

Bobby Skimster.

I mean, 95 was a watershed book as it had never been done before.

I think the expectation in South Africa on World Cups is quite high.

Isn't it?

What major effect did Nelson Mandela have on South African sport at this time?

He was a proper statesman.

He invited my wife and I for lunch at

his house, was just him and his wife. The story that he told me, which has been repeated a number of

times, was... You were like the equivalent of David Beckham in England, maybe not as big,

but that kind of equivalent at the time, in a smaller market. In a smaller market, in a smaller market,

in that rug market. How did you personally deal with the amount of pressure on your shoulder, seeing your front page, back page, people hounding new photos? How did you personally deal with that?

I'll tell you a very freaky story, one freaky story, which haunts me to this day, and I've never revisited it.

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Bobby Skinsdad, a rugby World Cup winner and legend, that

Captain South Africa's iconic spring box. Bobby talks for growing up with a huge amount

of racism whilst being the poster boy of South African rugby. He also talks about the

immense positive impact Nelson Mandela had on South Africa when he came out of prison. This is

the eventful life of Mr Bobby Skinstay.

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