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Counselling Tutor

230 – Metacognitive Therapy

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6636 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Existential Therapy - Adapting Your Therapeutic Model In Episode 230 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly take us through this week's three topics: First, in 'Counselling Foundations', we look at existential therapy. Then in 'Focus on Self', Rory and Ken discuss adapting your therapeutic model. And lastly in 'Practice Matters', Rory speaks with Dr Pia Callesen about metacognitive therapy. Existential Therapy [starts at 01:45 mins] In this section on existential therapy, Rory and Ken briefly discuss the philosophy behind existential thoughts and some things you can give clients to think about in order to help them deal with these thoughts: Struggling to find meaning between life and death. A fear of existence. Help the client to identify the meaning of their lives through things such as goals. Having an end point gives everything that happens before it meaning. Nothing is fixed - the only thing constant is change. Therapists set the ground for asking questions like 'why not?' - just giving things a go. Adapting Your Therapeutic Model [starts at 16:33 mins] Once you're a qualified counsellor, there may be times when a client needs something outside of your usual modality. Rory and Ken discuss some of the things to think about when adapting your therapeutic model: It's important to meet the client where they are and adapting your practice to it. However, it's important to not work outside of your competence. CPD - you can integrate elements from your CPD into your practice. Is person-centred therapy a model, or simply a way of approach? Speak to your supervision if there's anything you're unsure about. Metacognitive Therapy [starts at 30:49 mins] In the final section of this week's episode, Rory speaks with Dr Pia Callesen on metacognitive therapy. The main points of this discussion include: When looking at the main causes of psychological illnesses, Prof. Adrian Wells found that the time spent on your thoughts was an incredibly influential factor, and thus created the metacognitive theory. Metacognitive theory is all about the self-regulation of your thoughts. Don't ruminate on your thoughts - this doesn't mean having an empty head, it just means leaving your thoughts alone. Restoring clients' metacognitive belief - they do have the control to leave their thoughts alone. Changing the belief that worrying and ruminating over thoughts for a long period of time will help to solve the problem. Metacognitive therapy happens over 5-12 sessions - a short term, research-based treatment. The client is still having thoughts and emotions, they're simply not engaging with them. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Shop Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner's Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course Metacognitive Therapy Institute Cektos Center for Metacognitive Therapy

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0:00.0

I'm Ken Kelly and I've got a real burning passion for counselling skills.

0:05.1

I've built training that takes the doubt out of using counselling skills.

0:09.7

You get to see the counselling skills used in real live sessions by a qualified therapist.

0:16.5

Full sessions, real material, real counselling skills.

0:20.2

To find out more, go to

0:22.3

counselling skills academy.com. Welcome to the counseling tutor podcast. The must listen to

0:30.6

podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy. Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oakes and Ken Kelly. Hi, I'm Rory. I'm with me,

0:42.6

as always, is Ken. How are you doing, Ken? I'm well. Thank you for asking Rory. I'm very grateful

0:48.5

to be here. Rory and I are grateful you've joined us. It's the counselling tutor podcast. We're at

0:53.9

episode 230 and we've

0:55.9

got three topics for discussion today, starting off with our counselling foundations where we're

1:01.5

going to be speaking about existential therapy. Difficult to say for me that. Existential therapy,

1:08.8

I have to say it really slowly to get the words out. Then we're going on to focus

1:12.5

on self where we recognize you are the heartbeat of your practice. And today we're going to be speaking

1:17.9

about adapting your therapeutic model. Is there a need? What does that mean? More coming your way

1:24.5

in that section. And then we're going to end today with our practice matters, where today, Rory, you met up with a very, very special guest, Dr. Pia Kasson, speaking about metacognitive therapy.

1:37.3

So that's definitely something you want to be sticking around for.

1:40.4

But let's lay the foundations, the foundations that underpin good counselling practice and speak

1:45.4

about the theory of extestential therapy. Everyone's giggling at my pronunciation, Rory.

1:52.8

Yes, and I think that's a great way to start. Your kind of stumbling to some extent of the word

1:58.7

is indeed an extensional crisis crisis of not of not knowing

2:03.1

the meaning and i think that leads us in nicely to what extensionalism is extensionalism is a

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