229 | "Regeneration Is the Only Way Forward" - Paul Hawken | Connection, Carbon & the Future of Life
Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration
Corinna Bellizzi
5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
A single cell of carbon contains trillions of molecules, and its role in connecting all life is immeasurable. American environmentalist Paul Hawken decided to study indigenous languages to further explore the beauty of the most versatile element on the planet that animates the entirety of the living world. Joining Corinna Bellizzi, he talks about his book “Carbon: The Book of Life” and how it opened his eyes to the fact that regeneration is the singular key to humanity’s survival. He stresses the importance of embracing regenerative agricultural practices, nature-based solutions, and indigenous knowledge to ensure the planet’s longevity and sustainability. Paul also explains why he considers “we” as the most dangerous pronoun and how to rethink our daily choices in a world addicted to overconsumption.
About Guest:
Paul Hawken starts ecological businesses, writes about nature and commerce, and consults with heads of state and CEOs on climatic, economic and ecological regeneration. He has written nine books published in 30 languages including six national and New York Times bestsellers: Growing a Business, The Next Economy, The Ecology of Commerce, Blessed Unrest, Drawdown and Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis In One Generation. He is the founder of Project Drawdown, Regeneration.org, and just completed his latest work, Carbon: The Book of Life which is published by Penguin Random House. It was released on March 18, 2025.
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Show Notes: Final audio
- 00:02:07 - Writing The Book ‘Carbon’
- 00:10:15 - The Growing Impact Of Regenerative Agriculture
- 00:21:57 - Regeneration: The Only Path Forward
- 00:34:46 - Living In A Consumerist And Capitalist Society
- 00:42:49 - Changing The Topography Of Living Spaces
- 00:52:24 - How Life Exists Within A Single Cell
- 00:59:40 - Some Regenerative Solutions From ‘Carbon’
- 01:07:05 - Episode Wrap-up And Closing Words
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| 0:00.0 | Well, the soil deteriorates, actually plants want to heal the soil. |
| 0:06.0 | So the weeds indicate what's happening below. |
| 0:11.1 | And not to say we want to use weeds to restore our soil because we can't eat those weeds, |
| 0:17.4 | but that's exactly why glyposet came about in herbicides, right? |
| 0:22.6 | So that accelerated the loss of life in the soil. |
| 0:25.6 | So now, then the pesticides were the, you know, Kootie Tau, when we started to coat the seeds |
| 0:31.6 | with neonicinides, which lasts for five years, systemic, they go into the plant, they go into the leaves, you know, butterflies |
| 0:38.8 | and insects, you know, eat the leaves. They die. The birds eat the insects. They ate the plant. |
| 0:44.4 | You know, the birds die. The bees definitely suffer. And so that's our current agricultural systems. |
| 0:51.6 | Welcome to Care More Be Better, a podcast for people like you who care about the social |
| 0:57.3 | impact of conscious companies and everyday heroes. |
| 1:00.7 | Hear inspiring stories from those who put people in planet before profit and personal gain. |
| 1:06.2 | You'll learn how you can make a difference, vote with your dollars, and get involved today. |
| 1:13.6 | Here's your host, Karina Belizey. Hello and welcome to Care More Be Better. |
| 1:16.6 | Each week, I invite you to care more about social and environmental issues so that we can create a better world together. |
| 1:23.6 | I'm thrilled to once again welcome Paul Hawkin, a best-selling author and leading voice |
| 1:29.1 | calling for the regeneration of nature and humanity. He has authored nine books, published in 30 |
| 1:35.6 | languages, including the Ecology of Commerce, Blessed Unrest, and Regeneration, ending the climate |
| 1:41.4 | crisis in one generation. He joins me today to talk about his new book, |
| 1:46.0 | Carbon, the Book of Life, published by Penguin Random House. It's now available wherever books |
| 1:52.1 | are sold, at least here in the United States. With that, I hope you'll join me in welcoming |
| 1:56.5 | him to the show. Welcome back, Paul. Thank you so much. It's good to see you. I'm really |
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