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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

227: Echoes of Enlightenment

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

4.4856 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Many of you will recall one of our most popular and amazing podcasts of all, the recording of the live therapy with Michael at the Atlanta intensive last year. In today’s recording, which was recorded for a different purpose, Dr. Michael recalls his entire experience that day, with many teaching points. Although I was AT the Atlanta intensive doing the therapy, with the help of my co-therapist, Thai-An Truong, I was fascinated and enlightened by this interviews because:

  1. Michael was incredibly warm, genuine and openness.
  2. The summary shows clearly and exactly how TEAM therapy works.
  3. He recounts not only his recovery, but also how was unexpectedly catapulted into what, by my understanding, is best described as “enlightenment.” Or something awfully darn close to it!
  4. He reminds us that even after one has recovered and experienced “enlightenment,” we are still human and never immune to the occasional return of negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity and self-doubt, which are now, for Michael, short-lived!

I just got Rhonda’s response after she listened to this recording for the first time. Here’s what she said:

I forgot to tell you that I listened to the 30-minute recording of Michael's reflections and I loved it. I think it would be a great podcast. He did a wonderful job summarizing the work, and how it impacted him at various stages. I liked how he included his skepticism and his awe in recovery.

Warmly,

Rhonda and David

PS Rhonda and I are convinced that successful personal work is a necessary part of therapist training. When you’ve done your own work, you are no longer just a “technician,” but a healer, because you can tell your patients,

“I know you feel because I’ve been there myself, and I know how painful and lonely that can be. And I’m really excited to show you the way out of the woods, too, so you can get back to feelings of joy and self-esteem, so you can wake up in the morning and say that’s it’s GREAT to be alive!”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to

0:12.0

change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the

0:16.8

Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of

0:22.3

cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new team therapy. He's the author of Feeling

0:27.4

Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over

0:32.7

30 languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery

0:39.2

possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an

0:44.7

emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine.

0:50.3

Hello, Donna.

0:58.7

Hello, David, and welcome listeners to episode 227.

1:05.8

Today we're doing a really, you know, today I always say that every episode is exciting.

1:10.0

Today we're doing a recap with Michael.

1:12.9

Dr. Michael Greenwald.

1:14.5

Dr. Michael Greenwald.

1:16.0

Did I get that right?

1:17.4

I believe you did.

1:17.8

Good.

1:25.3

And first let me begin by reading a couple of podcast endorsements because they're pretty fun today.

1:27.1

So one of our team therapists, Daniel Herman, wrote you,

1:31.8

Hi, David, congratulations.

1:33.9

I'm loving the new book and haven't been able to put it down over the past few days.

1:38.4

There's no question that so many people will have their lives changed by this book.

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