226: Bill's daughter was murdered

What Was That Like - True Stories. Real People.

Scott Johnson & Glassbox Media

True Crime, Documentary, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Sometimes, you see a phone call coming in and you just know that something bad has happened. I remember back several years ago, when my dad was still alive. He was in pretty poor health. He could still walk around, sort of, but it was with a walker, and it was very slowly. I’m the oldest of three sons, and of the three, I live the closest. It’s only about a 5 or 6 minute drive for me to get to my parents’ place, so if something happened, I’d be the one to get that call. Lots of times my phone would ring, and it would be my mom calling, quite upset and worried, because my dad had fallen and she couldn’t get him up. And you know, when a call comes in the middle of the night, it’s almost never going to be good news. We’ve had a few of those as well. For my guest today, Bill, life was good. He and his wife had two children – David, in high school, and Kristin, who had just graduated from college and was about to start a career. But then, Bill got a phone call. It was from a woman who identified herself as a police detective. And she was calling with news about Bill’s daughter. Bill told this story on the podcast a little over 3 years ago, and it’s one of the episodes that had a big impact on people. Some of the elements of this story are just incredible. And you’ll also hear a recent conversation I had with Bill, about what’s happened since then. If you’d like to contact Bill, you can do that through his website: https://www.whendatinghurts.com/ Full show notes and pictures for this episode are here: https://WhatWasThatLike.com/226 Graphics for this episode by Bob Bretz. Transcription was done by James Lai. Want to discuss this episode and other things with thousands of other WWTL listeners? Join our podcast Facebook group at WhatWasThatLike.com/facebook (many of the podcast guests are there as well) Get every episode ad-free, AND get all the Raw Audio exclusive episodes to binge, by joining the other listeners at What Was That Like PLUS. Try What Was That Like PLUS free: iPhone: at the top of the What Was That Like podcast feed, click on “Try free” Android: on your phone, go to WhatWasThatLike.com/PLUS and click to try it free on any app Sponsor deals: If you’re 21 or older, get 25% OFF your first order + free shipping @IndaCloud with code [WHATWAS] at https://inda.shop/[WHATWAS]! #indacloudpod Go to ThriveMarket.com/WHATWAS to get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift just for signing up. Go to Quince.com/whatwas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Get 15% off OneSkin with the code [WHATWAS] at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sometimes you see a phone call coming in and you just know that something bad has happened.
0:10.0	I remember back several years ago when my dad was still alive. He was in pretty poor health. He could
0:16.4	still walk around, sort of, but it was with a walker and it was very slowly. I'm the oldest of three sons,
0:23.7	and of the three, I live the closest. It's only about a five or six minute drive for me to get to
0:29.4	my parents' place, so if something happened, I'd be the one to get that call. Lots of times my phone
0:36.1	would ring, and it would be my mom calling quite upset and worried because my dad had fallen and she couldn't get him up.
0:43.3	And you know when a phone call comes in the middle of the night it's almost never going to be good news.
0:50.3	We've had a few of those as well.
0:53.3	For my guest today, Bill, life was good. He and his wife
0:59.6	had two children, David in high school, and Kristen, who had just graduated from college and was
1:05.8	about to start a career. But then Bill got a phone call. It was from a woman who identified herself as a police
1:15.0	detective, and she was calling with news about Bill's daughter. Bill told this story on the
1:23.5	podcast a little over three years ago, and it's one of the episodes that had a big
1:28.8	impact on people.
1:31.1	Some of the elements of this story are just incredible.
1:35.1	And you'll also hear a recent conversation I had with Bill about what's happened since then.
1:44.8	Real people in unreal situations.
1:49.7	The eerie silence when I walked in, and he's just staring at me.
1:55.1	I was like, hello, like, are you okay?
1:57.6	And then I had to tell him it was me.
2:01.6	There was just blood everywhere.
2:03.6	They're shouting, they're screaming, they're being hit by bullets, they're hitting the ground.
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