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How Leaders Lead with David Novak

#226: Allan Thygesen, CEO of Docusign – Everyone’s a salesperson

How Leaders Lead with David Novak

David Novak Leadership

Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

4.8596 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Today’s guest is Allan Thygesen, the CEO of Docusign. Before that, he led Google’s $100 billion advertising business in North and South America. In this conversation, you’ll get a front row seat to how he approaches technology and innovation—including his advice for integrating AI into your business. Plus, he’s got an outlook on sales you need to hear. If selling makes you a little uncomfortable, don’t worry! Listen to this conversation and learn how to embrace that role—and why you can’t overlook it if you want other people to follow you. You’ll also learn: Practical advice to integrate AI into your business The two most important factors for a startup Why what seemed like “chaos” at Google was actually key to innovation How to make your team more well rounded Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources: The How Leaders Lead App: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go  Daily Insight Emails: One small (but powerful!) leadership principle to focus on each day Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Because you can't be successful in any organization unless you're selling to others,

0:04.3

and particularly early on your career where you don't have any authority.

0:07.2

You know, it comes from your persuasive ability.

0:17.9

It's the one role everybody has. And whether you lead a team or aspire to, you can't afford to ignore it.

0:26.0

And we're going to dive into that and so much more in today's episode of How Leaders Lead.

0:32.6

I'm David Noback, and every week I have conversations with the very best leaders in the world to help you

0:38.7

become the best leader that you can be. My guest today is Alan Teigason, the CEO of DocuSign.

0:47.0

Before that, he led Google's $100 billion advertising business in North and South America. So I think it's safe to say,

0:56.2

Alan's got his finger on the pulse of technology. And today, he's going to share some insights

1:01.7

into artificial intelligence that every leader needs to hear. But he's got some old school

1:08.2

wisdom, too, especially when it comes to sales.

1:11.8

Now, look, you may not have the word sales in your title, but you're still a salesperson.

1:18.4

As Bob Dylan used to say, everybody sells somebody.

1:23.9

And everyone is a salesperson when you think about it.

1:28.3

And if that makes you a little uncomfortable, don't worry.

1:31.9

Today, you're going to see how to embrace that role

1:35.0

and why you can't overlook it if you want other people to follow you.

1:39.8

So here's my conversation with my good friend,

1:42.8

and soon to be yours, Alan Teigason.

1:50.3

I got to start out at the top. I was just thinking about this, but what would be the most important

1:55.6

docusigned document that you've ever signed? Wow, I've signed a lot of docuSigns in my time.

2:02.2

I suppose signing my awful letter with DocuSign, which of course came on DocuSign.

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