Well, we are gathered here today, you know, around the pop-apologist Cauldron with none other

than Ryan Bailey of So Good It's Bad with Ryan Bailey. Ryan, thank you so much for, you know, really stepping up to the plate today.

Lots of, lots of metaphors in this intro, but I am just grateful because we need an expert like you on hand to dissect all that is the

Vanderpump Rules reunion and really kind of do a state of the union on this

reality show. Thanks for inviting me to a cauldron.

That's amazing.

Also, by the way, the show is called So Bad It's Good, not So Good It's Bad, but I will say

when you say So Good It's Bad, bad I'm like maybe it should be so good it's bad because I've

always over the years said like when you start so bad it's like a negative connotation and over the

years I've been like is that too is it almost starting off negative when I'm like saying so bad and I'm like maybe it should be so good it's bad I don't know but you've given me something to think about actually

I mean this is gonna sound so fake but I have actually

thought many times that it's that so good or so bad it's good is such a good title for a

podcast because that's really true like that's what these shows are they're so bad they're good so I'm

sorry for biffing that oh no no it's not a biff it's like no people do that all the time but it does make me think every time somebody does that I'm like maybe it does

start up with such a negative connotation that you know we're here to like celebrate pop culture and

celebrate these shows but at the same time when you get off a season like this of

Vanderbilt Pump rules you're like oh my god thank God it's over because there were so

many cringy horrible moments but Vanderbilt Pump rules I think is still so much

better than your Garden Variety reality show like they've

taken it to a new level I feel. I completely agree I feel like I feel like

Vanderbilt pump if we could just get into our current I like a pulse check on how everyone's feeling on van der pump rules right now I feel like there's a lot of chitter chatter about maybe the show being over there's been some rumors that they did the final

montage to you know really wrap it up with a bow you know and then they could set the show on its way.

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