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221: MOVIE CLUB - The Legend Of Billie Jean (With Jason Shawhan)

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Craig And Friends

Tv & Film

4.93.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Nashville’s pre-eminent film writer & curator Jason Shawhan joins me for an in-depth discussion and analysis of the feminist (and undercover queer) 1985 cult-classic that is THE LEGEND OF BILLIE JEAN.

Mistakenly dismissed at the time of release as just another junk teen flick, BILLIE JEAN is a commentary on American classism, misogyny, the power of technology to platform & amplify previously ignored voices (VHS then, TikTok now), gender roles & more. A Helen Slater gem that is just as relevant today as it was in 1985.

Co-starrring Christian Slater, Yeardly Smith, Dean Stockwell, Peter Coyote and Peter Coyote’s hair.

.For more Jason Shawhan:

https://x.com/jshawhan?s=21&t=2TXy7cSLOHZN-Ef4khov0A

http://rebirthoftheflesh.blogspot.com/

Jason & Sam Inglis host FEARLESS PRETENDER- The Only Podcast That Provides Extensive Analysis of Every-Single Film & Television Show Featuring Jennifer Jason-Leigh.

https://open.spotify.com/show/17u9DSmsiByQ56LijyERoo

Here my guest spot on the episode devoted to the bizarro Rodney Dangerfield classic EASY MONEY

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WVJsIaVmRSx4HfxjtZvm1?si=IRopJVbdQYWytOJ4tWXIGg

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1:11.5

As you can tell from the beautiful strains of Pat Benetar's version of the Holly Knight Classic Invincible that's not playing underneath this nav, but we'll be dropped in later.

1:24.5

This is the movie club for what film? This is the movie club for the Legend of Billy Jean, and I'm going to start with a question.

1:34.5

And the question is not is fair fair, because the film scientifically has demonstrated that, yes, fair is fair.

1:40.5

That's right. My question is, is Lloyd Gay? That's a very interesting question.

1:45.5

I always wanted to know. Yes. Now, what are the signifiers to you that would point to Lloyd being gay?

1:53.5

I feel okay. He is no siblings, wealthy family, gets left at home a lot, eccentric, very eccentric state of the art technology.

2:06.5

Always a sign of a gay. Always a sign for a flair for dramatic lighting and photography.

2:12.5

He knows how to make an entrance. He's designed the entire interior of the house to just hoping somebody's going to slip in.

2:23.5

And they do, and it's very fortunate they do, because the movie could have ended differently if they ended up in any other house in that neighborhood.

2:30.5

The other house would not have gone so well.

2:32.5

Yeah, and it's like, yeah, he wants to kiss Billy Jean, but it's the same way that I want to kiss Parker Posey.

2:39.5

It is a full on respect. It's not quite Yascoin, because that doesn't exist at this point.

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