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🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 92 minutes
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54% of Gen Z individuals who disaffiliated from their childhood religion were women. For millennial women- 34%. For the first time in US History, men and young men are converting more to religion and filling the pews than women. Why? Women site gender inequality, systemic abuse, teaching limited roles for women, and lack of female church leadership as reasons for leaving.
My opinion is that women are realizing that organized religion run by men, led by men, collaborated on by men, interpreted by men, translated by men, taught by men... might be a system built to CONVENIENTLY benefit men. How convenient that the interpretations of scripture taught from the pulpit JUST SO HAPPEN to give men all the power, resources, decision making, a partner who can't say no and has to serve them as a house slave. Did God say that? Or did these men make God in their own image?
I think women are leaving because we see through the dogma right to the lies.
I am so deeply honored to call Irene a friend. I've been following her on social media for a couple years, when I discovered her rage-y music and that she had also deconstructed as well.
Irene and I left different branches of faith, evangelical fundamentalism for me, and mormonism for her.
This episode we talk about those journey's, how art was part of that healing process, how we found ourselves after growing up in a worldview that diminished us as women and told us that who we were was defective... sinful... and less than.
May this be your weekly reminder that YOU ARE WORTHY.
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0:00.0 | Social media can be a hellscape, but also it can be pretty cool sometimes. |
0:05.2 | And long before anyone knew who I was or what my story was, my journey out of deconstruction, |
0:10.5 | social media was a big part of my deconstruction. |
0:13.8 | It was a big part of exploring and finding new music. |
0:16.7 | A couple years ago, I find a video of this artist covering Rage Against the Machine, |
0:24.0 | which happens to be my second favorite band of all time. |
0:29.9 | I actually flew up to New York specifically to go to a sold-out show in Madison Square Gardens of Rage. |
0:33.5 | I crowd-surfed to Gorilla Radio and promptly got thrown out, but it was worth it. |
0:35.6 | I start following this artist. |
0:37.1 | Love her vibe. |
0:40.8 | Love what she's doing. Realize that she's an ex-fundamentalist as well, except an ex-fundamentalist from Mormonism. So I'm watching her deconstruction and the music |
0:46.8 | we love. And now she's here on the show with me today. And we've now become friends and share such a |
0:53.1 | similar story in such a strange way. And it's |
0:55.9 | one of the many, many stories I have now of where social media brought someone really incredible |
1:00.6 | into my life. So today on flipping tables, we're going to talk about deconstructing religion. |
1:05.8 | What a cult-like mindset looks like, how it affects you, how that influences art, our own journeys. |
1:12.0 | Irene's entropy is on with us today on flipping tables. |
1:20.9 | Hey, go, hey. |
1:23.5 | I did not know that that's originally why you started following me. |
1:26.5 | Yeah. |
1:27.3 | I'm trying to think of when I covered rage. |
1:29.5 | It was a while ago. |
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