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22. LIVE SHOW: Why Isn't Starmer's Labour Doing Better In The Polls?

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Government, News, News & Politics, Politics

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Britain has one of the worst death tolls and economic crises caused by the pandemic on earth - but the Tories have a lead, and the recent polling suggests it's growing. Joining me to discuss why - and what the left's strategy should be - are author Grace Blakeley, cultural theorist Jeremy Gilbert, and pollster Carl Shoben.


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0:00.0

Hello, hello, hello, whether you are watching this live on YouTube or Facebook or somewhere

0:12.9

else or you are listening to this on our brand spanking new exciting podcast, which is so

0:18.3

exciting and I'm very excited about and it's doing very well because of you. It is really

0:22.4

cold. It's just terribly cold. We haven't worn you up tonight. The cockles of your heart

0:27.4

with incisive political analysis. It's going to be really good actually. I'm actually very

0:32.2

excited about the show because it's going to be lively. It's going to be thoughtful. We're

0:38.0

going to bombard you with loads of interesting facts. I'm going to learn stuff. You're going

0:41.4

to learn stuff. It's going to be great. My cat, I've just realised he's going to steal the

0:45.8

show. I was wanting to take the cat out. I was wanting to take the show. If you're listening,

0:50.4

my cat has invaded the studio, which is of course by living room. Anyway, we march. Today, we are

0:59.0

talking about the Labour Party. Why not? I don't know what I've done in a previous life to be

1:04.6

cursed to have to talk about the Labour Party as a essentially one of the pillars of my job.

1:09.3

That is also the case with two of the three of the guests that I have today as well. That is

1:16.1

we must have done something pretty heinous in the past life. What we're talking about is we're

1:20.2

talking about the fact we are living, I'm sure you've noticed, through a terrible national

1:24.8

emergency, which is horrifically killed, around 115,000 to 120,000 of our fellow citizens. One

1:32.9

of the worst death tolls on earth, the worst death rate, other than Slovenia and Belgium.

1:38.5

And yet, Labour is not ahead in the polls. In fact, Labour is doing worse on average than

1:43.5

it won in 2017, the election, which has been erased from history. It never happened. And also,

1:49.4

it's worse on average than the polling Labour had between June 2017 and the beginning of 2019. However,

1:56.1

Keir Starmer does have the best leadership ratings of any Labour leader for a decade. I say that

2:01.1

because we do stick to the facts. And that is an important fact. And we're going to talk about where

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