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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

#22: 1905-1911 - Anglo-German Relations I

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

19th Century, 20th Century, International Relations, Politics, Thirty Years' War, Korean War, 18th Century, First World War, Phd, 17th Century, European History, History, War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Everyone knows the story of Britain and Germany before 1914. Or at least, they think they do.


Anglo-German relations following the Russo-Japanese War seemed bound to enter a period of hostility, enabled by the naval race which forced London to invest heavily in production and innovation, and produced the dreadnought as an unforeseen consequence. But this race to outbuild the other in warship construction did not lead automatically to the events of 1914. Indeed, many possibilities existed for the two rivals to patch things up.


This was what the French truly feared, but as they prepared for a second showdown with Berlin in Morocco, the British appeared to stand by them. Was the British Cabinet entirely convinced that Germany was its enemy? Many thought so, but again, matters were not so clear cut. Even Kaiser Wilhelm's disastrous record in PR could not guarantee that these two nations, tied together by so many dynastic, religious, traditional and economic threads, would face each other on opposite sides of the battlefield.


In this first part of our trilogy looking at Anglo-German relations, we set the scene and assess some key moments when Germany became the bogeyman of Britain. Yet even as the naval race became a naval scare, and even as Britain secretly planned for an Anglo-French defence, nothing was yet set in stone. The years that immediately preceded the war were vital for the next phase in the relationship - detente.


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0:00.0

In summer 1914, the world went to war.

0:04.6

Now 110 years later, we go back to those figures, to those debates, to those questions,

0:12.2

in the greatest failure in the history of diplomacy.

0:16.3

I am Dr. Zach Twomley. You're listening to When Diplomacy Fails, and this is the July

0:23.2

Crisis. In my opinion, a war between ourselves and Germany is as certain as anything human can be.

1:00.0

If it does not come today, it will come tomorrow or the next day, and in all probability it will come at a time which suits Germany and not us.

1:08.0

There is only one way to victory, and that is to see to it that our foreign

1:12.1

policy and our strategy go hand in hand, and that sufficient force is available to carry out the

1:17.7

policy, which has been previously determined. Sir Henry Wilson to Winston Churchill, 29th of August,

1:24.9

1911.

1:34.8

Historians have devoted extensive space and time to the Anglo-German relationship before 1914,

1:39.8

and it's time we turn our attention to it at this pivotal point in the July crisis.

1:43.2

I am sure you're aware of the traditional story.

1:44.8

Britain meets Germany.

1:46.3

Britain loves its navy.

1:48.4

Germany loves Britain's navy.

1:50.3

Germany wants its own navy.

1:51.5

Britain gets jealous.

1:58.9

The two powers competed to increase the power of their respective fleets in what has been called the naval race.

2:01.9

The naval race damaged the Anglo-German relationship,

2:08.1

reducing trust, and pushing Britain towards the Entente, while at the same time naval innovation flourished, wargaming became more sophisticated, and Britain came to see Germany as its main rival.

2:15.8

But is this the whole story?

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