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Wrongful Conviction

#218 Jason Flom and Kim Kardashian on Julius Jones - UPDATE

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

This is an updated episode that originally aired on May 20, 2020. On July 28th, 1999, Julius Jones was playing monopoly with his family and soon to be a sophomore on an academic scholarship at the University of Oklahoma. That night, a man named Paul Howell was shot for his GMC Suburban in the nearby suburb of Edmund, Oklahoma. A few days later, Julius was awakened and dragged out of bed, barefoot and shirtless, and taken into police custody as a murder suspect even though the eyewitness description should have excluded him as a suspect. 3 witnesses (and counting) have come forward with sworn affidavits claiming that Julius’ former friend and co-defendant Chris Jordan has often taken responsibility for Paul Howell’s murder - while Julius awaits lethal injection. Julius’ attorney Dale Baich, his mother and sister, Madeline and Antoinette Jones, as well as special guest Kim Kardashian join Jason Flom to discuss Julius’ case and the race to right this wrong before it's too late. Learn more and get involved at: https://www.justiceforjuliusjones.com/ https://www.change.org/p/julius-jones-is-innocent-don-t-let-him-be-executed-by-the-state-of-oklahoma https://www.wrongfulconvictionpodcast.com/podcast/s12e64-wrongful-conviction-with-jason-flom-richard-glossip https://www.wrongfulconvictionpodcast.com/with-jason-flom Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co No1.

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0:00.0

Since our initial release of Julius Jones' story, there have been some exciting new developments.

0:05.1

This is a re-release of that story with brand new content, but before we reveal the

0:09.7

newly discovered evidence and what it means for Julius Jones' wrongful conviction, we

0:13.8

need to address the issue that's working its way through federal district court in Oklahoma

0:18.2

right now.

0:19.2

What I'm referring to, of course, is the case that has been to the US Supreme Court that

0:23.9

we discussed at length in our coverage of its leading plaintiff, Richard Glossop.

0:28.8

If you would like a fuller understanding of why there has been a moratorium on executions

0:32.7

at Oklahoma since 2015, we'll have Richard's story linked in this episode's bio.

0:38.1

However, that case obviously directly affects everyone on death row in Oklahoma, including

0:44.0

Julius Jones.

0:45.7

What's at issue is that both former companies and foreign governments are part of a concerted

0:50.8

effort to starve America and about nine other countries that still use the death penalty

0:57.1

of the drugs that are used in lethal injections.

0:59.7

The shortage of approved lethal injection drugs has led Oklahoma and other states to move

1:04.6

forward with executions using substitute drugs for the approved ones in their state's

1:09.7

protocol, a practice that has caused many botched executions.

1:14.6

Now since 2015, death row inmates have been fighting Oklahoma in court over the eighth

1:19.7

amendment issue of whether these substitute drugs and the subsequent botched executions

1:24.8

they cause constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

1:28.4

In the case of Clayton Lockett, who rides on the execution gurney for 43 full minutes,

1:34.3

I'm going to go with yes, it sure does.

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