This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. For me, this is mostly a conversation.

Like, I don't, I'm not, if you go on my channel, you won't find debates.

It's mostly about exploring ideas and exploring.

And I think that, I think that there's an interesting bridge for people in the West that are interested in esotericism in general with just really mainstream Orthodox theology where it's more integrated.

In the West, there seems to have been a schism somewhere in the late Middle Ages where, you know, the elites kind of went up towards these,

these esoteric groups and esoteric societies. And then the Catholic Church was kind of, was kind of

left down there. And then finally it ended up being a hostile relationship between the two sides.

But I feel like in the East, there's a more

integrated version. And so I talk about symbolism. I talk about mystery. We talk about all these things

about, you know, becoming God, the deification of man. And I have no problem with my hierarchy at all.

Like I have no, there's no, I have no pushback because it's basically just the common thing.

So I don't know if you know a little bit about Eastern Christianity. I've studied a little bit

about it, but not quite so much. I think Catholicism is more accessible with regards to their

traditions and a lot of literature that I've encountered. The Orthodox thing is as far as being a major force in the English-speaking world,

I think is more recent, generally speaking.

Most of my forte, though, a lot of it really deals with the occult writ large in the sense

of folklore, superstition, things like that.

Like, as far as esotericism of any brand, it really focuses more on that.

I have more of an appreciation for what we would conceive of as the vulgar, actually,

more of an interest in that.

Folk charms and rituals, including some Christian mysticism,

it was often in the works that I've actually edited, a lot of it is at the very

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