Hello and welcome to the very Shut Up and Sit Down podcast. The podcast about board games,

board games, board games and the people who love board games. Today it's me, Mr. Matthew

Lee's joined by Ava Foxfort and we have got a bit of a strange special episode for you

today, haven't we Ava?

Yeah, that's the plan. You've just kind of sprung this on me immediately now.

Well, you may remember a while ago, there was a podcast to do with the ideal game night.

What would that look like? What would be the ideal game night? Get everyone together in

one room. And I was thinking on my way wandering around this morning, what about the ideal board

gaming commune, right? And I thought, wow, what two people better to work out with the ideal

board gaming commune would be than somebody who actually works in the field of doing financial

based commune stuff, Ava and me, sort of, sort of, and me who's seen some arguably ethically

questionable documentaries on Netflix about cults will meet in the middle, you know, with

art with art. This is what a commune is, exactly halfway between housing cooperatives, which

is what I actually do, which isn't quite the same thing as communes. And murder cults, cults,

you end up with communes. Bang in the middle. So we are shaking hands across the world here

to come up with the ideal board gaming commune. So I'm just going to walk you through where this

came from, right? I was thinking about Gloomhaven, a frost haven this morning, right? And I was thinking

about how there's a certain fiddlingness to those games to put it mildly, right? There are a bit

fiddly, have you noticed that? A little bit fiddly. And there's definitely been times where I've

been playing them. And the fiddlingness has sort of been like catnip to my slightly strangled and

bedraggled brain, right? Where I was doing one mission which just involved an obscene amount of

cardboard upkeep. And I just became kind of a human Excel spreadsheet, just doing it and

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