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The BEMA Podcast

215: Character Study — Joseph, Part 2

The BEMA Podcast

BEMA Discipleship

Hermeneutics, Religion & Spirituality, Scripture, Jewish Context, Biblical, Judaism, Bible, Christianity

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🗓️ 15 April 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Marty Solomon and Brent Billings merge the studies of Joseph and Jacob. As Joseph eventually experiences a reunification of his family, what more is left to do? Shouldn’t they sit back and enjoy the redemption in Egypt? Apparently not, according to Jacob.

The Exodus You Almost Passed Over by Rabbi David Fohrman

Genesis: A Parsha Companion by Rabbi David Fohrman

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0:00.0

This is the Baymont podcast with Marty Solman. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today we will merge our studies of Josef and Jakov. And as Josef eventually experiences a reunification of his family, what more has left to do. Shouldn't we sit back and enjoy the redemption in Egypt? Apparently not, according to Jakov.

0:26.2

Alright, we're going to jump in right where we left off. We reminded ourselves at the end of our last episode, all the things that Jakov didn't know. And what was the detail that we said, Joseph didn't know, Brent? He didn't know that his father thought he was dead.

0:45.0

That's right. So, Joseph could be waiting for his dad to come rescue him. He is the favorite son. Anyway, his dad's always been there to back him up. And so that could probably be what he's expecting. And yet it never really happens in Joseph's life just kind of continues to unravel.

1:03.8

And so, and Foreman's bigger teaching and we're going to recommend all the same books where you can find, you know, his larger different presentations of this teaching, the ex-disci almost passed over.

1:15.4

Genesis a par of Shaw Companion, his teachings that you might find at alifbeta.org, all those things. You can, would be super helpful. He has a teaching long before he wrote those books. He had a lecture series called Goats and Coats that you can sometimes find on the internet in different places.

1:32.4

But Goats and Coats, and he talks about this moment where Joseph has to probably come to grapple with the fact that his dad's not coming to get him.

1:42.4

And then he makes this interesting observation about what happens. And we kind of covered this, I think, in our original episodes, Brent, but maybe we'll be able to present them with some extra little goodies and maybe better, maybe worse. Who knows.

1:57.4

And so, you know, the first time we saw stuff, it all seems to happen in reverse order. And Foreman points us out beautifully, visually, by the way, in his book with a visual diagram.

2:10.0

In Genesis 37, we see Jacob say, Joseph say to Jacob, I dreamed a dream. I had a dream. Come here, me, come listen to me. So, you know, in 3710, here's the father hearing the son's dream.

2:29.6

And Jacob scoffs at Joseph, if you remember, so Joseph comes to Jacob, he says, I had a dream. Let me tell you about it. And then the next verse his father scoffs at his dream.

2:40.6

And then later in the story, he sent away by Jacob. Remember, he sent away to go check in on the brothers.

2:48.6

And then he ends up getting stripped of his clothes. They stripped the robe off of him. And then he's cast into a pit.

2:58.6

All this is ringing a bell, right Brent? It was the title of our episode. That is correct. So those are the five things that are happened that happen.

3:08.6

Really four things this form and identify some the telling and hearing of a dream.

3:14.6

Sent away by the father, stripped of his clothes, cast into a pit.

3:20.6

Later in the story, Joseph finds himself in a pit. He's literally in a dungeon. And yet the Hebrew keeps calling it off and on. It keeps calling it a pit, which is a weird thing to call a dungeon. There is a word for a dungeon, a prison.

3:33.6

And yet the Hebrew keeps insisting that he's in a pit. Almost like it's wanting you to think back to the first time he was in a pit. Now he's in a pit again.

3:40.6

And Foreman points out everything happens in reverse. So the first time it was telling and hearing a dream, sent away by the father, stripped of his clothes, cast into a pit.

3:52.6

But now he's pulled out of the pit by Pharaoh. He's given new clothes. He's sent for by a new, we could say, like this Pharaoh is acting an awful lot like a new what Brent.

4:08.6

A new father to him. Absolutely a new father figure. So everything that his father did to him. And in fact, frustrated him and ended up leading to his selling and like whatever you want to call the downward spiral of his life experience.

4:25.6

It ends up going in reverse. You could say almost like maybe almost like a pseudo redemption. He's pulled out of the pit. He's given new clothes. He he's sent for instead of sent away. He sent for by a new father.

4:41.6

And this time the father has a dream and asks Joseph to listen to it. So everything's done in reverse. And the first time it was a dream. Listen to me.

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