You can now follow me in all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the

notifications button so you're notified for when my next podcast goes live. Yeah, he was he was a, you know, absolutely weird sort of case really, because he'd break into these houses where mostly women with some men and all elderly,

all very much those that lived alone and you know been in the house for a long time and they must have felt

you know so secure in their own bed at night and and he would break in he'd remove the

light bulbs or turn the electricity off so they couldn't put a light on.

It had their phones, they couldn't go for help.

And they'd be woken up by this dark figure looming over them, shining a torch in their face.

The guy who was refused admission and set lights the place and 11 people died.

Back in, I think it was 94. And yeah, it all left them post-mortem.

That was a bizarre day.

You know, it was just such a...

And that deals with the Levi-Belford investigation.

So that was, you know,

Levi-Belford was this

horrible serial murderer and Peter Farm,

who is the only man ever to be given whole life sentences of two different trials in the country.

He killed two young women in South London, tried to kill another one, and that was my case,

and he'd also killed Millie Dowler, which was a spare.

Do you deal with that then at the start, but when you get put forward to then try and catch one of the biggest

cereal calls on the loose at that time. The first reaction is am I up to it? I'm not

going to lie that was you know that's how I felt. In what way?, I know this is going to be really high pressure.

You know when you watch, you know, when you read a book or you watch a film or whatever, there's always this

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