This is the Terry Cole show and as you might have guessed I'm your host Terry Cole

For over two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist love boundaries expert, and I'm also the founder of

the Real of Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp.

On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations

from my time on the front lines in the fascinating world of entertainment, empowerment,

and mental health. Now let's get going with today's episode.

I'm so incredibly excited to welcome Dr. Shefali to the Terry Colia welcome.

Thank you Terry. It's such a pleasure to be here. So excited.

So you're on the show partly because I had the pleasure of meeting you in person the other

night so we hung out at a very fancy restaurant not. We actually went to Gabby Bernstein's book launch party and you were meeting Kate Northrop.

And I was meeting Kate Northrop.

We're both friends with Kate. She's involved with something very exciting that you're doing actually this month and Callie, so we will get to that. But for those in my crew and my audience who may not be familiar with your work, let's talk a little bit about you are a psychologist

and you are a parenting expert coach and you have two best selling books out that both sound amazing.

I wish they were around when I was parenting teenagers.

You have what do they call the conscious parent and the awakened family?

And there was one in between that didn't make the New York Times bestseller list

so people forget about it, but it's quite a good book.

It's called Out of Control, Why Discipline Doesn't work and what well.

Oh, how did that not become the best?

Poor cousin, it never gets nervous.

Well, that book actually sounds amazing.

I want to talk a little bit about what inspired you personally.

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