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212: The madness of Scotland’s gender bill

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🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Nicola Sturgeon’s war on women, the cancellation of Jeremy Clarkson and the fall of Saint Jacinda. Luke Gittos, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to the spike podcast I'm Fraser Myers and with me as ever in the studio we have

0:05.3

Spikes editor Tom Slater and back again this week spiked columnist Luke Gitos great to have you

0:10.4

Yeah, thanks hi coming up on today's show, The All Mighty bust up over

0:15.1

Nicholas Sturgeon's Gender Recognition Bill, Jeremy Clarkson versus Megan Markle, and the resignation

0:21.0

of Jissinder Arderne.

0:22.8

So this week the UK government launched the kind of nuclear option

0:30.6

as it's been described against Scotland's gender recognition reform bill.

0:34.7

This was a reform introduced by Nicola Sturgeon at the tail end of last year.

0:39.9

Lots of concerns have been raised about women's rights, the effect is going to have on children,

0:45.0

with the way that it would essentially create a system of gender self-identification.

0:49.3

Now that's not strictly the reason why Westminster has blocked it.

0:53.0

Can you explain a little bit about the sort of legal background to this Luke?

0:56.0

Yeah, I mean it's the nuclear option in that it's never been used before.

0:59.0

So this is a section of the

1:04.3

Act which gave birth to the Scottish Parliament the framework of Devolution from 1998

1:07.5

and one of the sections in that act effectively gives Westminster

1:11.0

to the power to block any piece of legislation passed by the

1:14.5

Scottish Parliament which would have a detrimental impact on the rest of the UK's

1:19.6

legal system. Now while I think this is unprecedented, I think this, that the

1:25.8

Scottish bill is the precisely the kind of bill this section was designed for.

1:31.1

Yeah, because what the Scottish Parliament is proposing is a very

1:35.5

radical overhaul of the way that gender operates in the United Kingdom and they

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