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podcast app. I read them all. They warm my heart. They keep me going. And I really, really appreciate

your support. So thank you so much. And when you think of plastic bottled water, actually,

the water is virtually free. What you're buying is the plastic because the water is like such a smaller

amount of cost over the entire object that you're buying. So it really is a plastic business.

That was Pierre Pasliet, the co-founder of Knotplaw, which is an innovative environmentally

conscious packaging startup, creating things like edible water packets made of seaweed.

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