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211. NXIVM vs Scientology Part 1

heretics.

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4968 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Kelly Thiel - a former member of the NXIVM cult - joins me and former scientologist Aaron Smith-Levin to discuss the similarities between the two cults. Kelly Thiel links: https://kellythielbook.com https://www.instagram.com/thekellythiel Aaron Smith-Levin links: https://www.youtube.com/c/GrowingUpInScientology https://twitter.com/GrowingupinSCN Andrew Gold links: http://youtube.com/andrewgold1 http://instagram.com/andrewgold_ok http://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Christmas is approaching.

0:02.0

Christmas is approaching.

0:04.0

Sounds like I'm about to do an ad,

0:06.0

but I am not just saying Christmas is approaching.

0:10.0

I think this is going out on the 19th of December so you're probably listening to

0:15.0

on that day or maybe way in the future who knows but either way Christmas is

0:19.3

either within a certain amount of months or you know it's either six months ahead or six

0:25.4

months behind at most or something someone correct my maths please anyway

0:29.7

today's episode is with Kelly Teal who I've come to realize is Teal, not Thel, I called a

0:36.1

Kelly Thel last time when she was on. That was episode 83. She's not yet heard that,

0:41.4

give that a listen. And Kelly Teal was in the cult of Nixium, that's

0:46.4

NX I VM, a multi-level marketing cult or a cult that disguised itself as multi-level marketing that was

0:55.8

abusing its members and its founder Keith Ranieri seems to be a

1:01.6

psychopath he's in prison now I think for life.

1:04.7

And Allison Mack, who is the celebrity actress from Smallville, she was like his right-hand and she and he were branding people with their

1:17.2

initials as part of a ceremony and some sort of sex ceremony thing so it's all pretty

1:22.0

insane and Kelly Teal is back on

1:24.5

the podcast this time round along with my friend Erin Smith Levin who's been quite a

1:29.2

few episodes recently the former Scientologist.

1:32.6

And we're looking at colts in general and how Nixium is similar to Scientology and how it differs

1:38.6

because Keith Wannieri, the founder of Nixium, stole a lot of psychological and

1:44.8

neurolinguistic programming things from Scientology.

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