#211: Joel Jamieson

The Primal Kitchen Podcast

Mark Sisson & Morgan Zanotti

Fitness, Entrepreneur, Sisson, Parenting, Health, Wellness, Weightloss, Primal, Paleo, Nutrition, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 717 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Brad Kearns chats with Performance Architect Joel Jamieson about his groundbreaking post about the energy cost of recovery, published on 8weeksout.com, called "All Pain, No Gain: Why The High Intensity Training Obsession Has Failed Us All". Joel details how our flawed perspective about training negates the concept that the body only has a given amount of energy to expend each day, and that recovery and restoration require energy just as training and stressful.

Furthering the compensation theory discussed at length in Primal Blueprint books, Joel mentions respected science that contends we operate under a "constrained model of energy expenditure." If you burn up excess energy during exercise, your body becomes naturally lazier throughout the day and divert valuable energy away from recovery and immune function. Hence, Joel's argument for "recovery-based fitness" where you respect the resources necessarily allocated to three main functions: 1 - vital biological functions - basic daily survival 2 - physical activity AND general everyday stress of busy life 3 - recovery and restoration
It follows that a type-A hard driver trying to dispense energy to career, family and also fitness endeavors is playing with fire, constantly challenging the body's maximum energy potential and incurring what Jamieson calls "recovery debt." This is where your hard training goes to waste because your body has insufficient energy to recover and restore. This show will really stop you in your tracks and get you re-thinking your basic principles of not only training, but daily living.

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Mark Sisson.
0:03.1	Welcome to the Primal Blueprint Podcast, where we deliver a variety of fresh content to help you live awesome.
0:09.9	Enjoy the show.
0:10.8	Engage with us online at marksdailyapple.com and on social media and send your questions to info at primalblueprint.com.
0:22.1	Hey, listeners, I'm here with an exciting guest that I just met recently,
0:26.9	inspired by his incredible article written on his website, 8 Weeks Out.com.
0:31.3	It's Joel Jameson. How are you, Joel?
0:33.4	Doing great. How about you?
0:34.5	Thanks so much for joining us.
0:36.2	So I don't know how I landed on this. I think it's really a landmark article, and it caused me to think so much. It was so well presented, this stuff we talk about all the time, that recovery is important. Oh, yes, we know that. But you really detailed the story here in a really thoughtful way. So I encourage
0:55.6	all the listeners to visit eight, the number eight weeks out.com and the title of the article,
1:03.0	No pain, no gain, why the high intensity training obsession has failed us all. So we will get
1:09.0	into the whys there, but I think a proper introduction, I want to find out
1:14.0	what a performance architect does up there in the Pacific Northwest, and then maybe a little tidbit
1:20.2	about your very interesting hobby that I learned about when you signed on to Skype.
1:24.7	Sure, yeah. So I got started in the strength conditioning field back in the late
1:28.0	90s at the University of Washington. And really, like, a lot of strength coaches, I basically was just
1:33.1	an athlete who couldn't make it to the next level. And I still wanted to be around training in the
1:37.8	team aspects. So I worked at University of Washington under a great training coach named Bill Gillespie
1:41.9	and really learned the ropes of strength conditioning and builds a 700 plus pound bench pressure. So I got a real quick education and how to get
1:49.8	strong and big and powerful, all those sorts of things. And then I moved on, followed him to
1:54.4	Seahawks for about a year. And then just kind of decided I didn't want to have the professional
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