Hi, I'm Mark Groves.

I'm a human connection specialist and founder of Create the Love.

At an early point in my life, I became obsessed with understanding relationships, the intricacies

of how people connect.

And through this exploration, I have created a life and a business dedicated

to learning out loud and exploring how we interact with each other and the world.

This podcast brings the world's top thought leaders, spiritual luminaries, physicians,

scientists, researchers, bestselling authors and health and wellness experts under one roof

to discuss the good, the bad,

the messy, and of course the beautiful parts of the human experience.

Welcome to the Mark Groves podcast. I can't wait to dive in with you.

Welcome to another episode of the Mark Rose podcast, Joe Shehee.

Welcome, my friend.

Thank you for having me, brother.

It's an honor to be here.

So happy to have you on here. You know, and I think about our mutual connection. And for you guys listening, you,

if you haven't heard my episode with Traver Bowen, it's a good one to go back to you. But our mutual

friend, Trevor, who's like, you got to interview my buddy. I'm like, I got to interview his buddy.

Anyone he recommends, I'm like, all right, I'm in, all in. I love Traver. I appreciate the connection,

and he's been a huge impact on my life. He's such an awesome dude. And whenever I can

figure out why someone goes from aerospace engineer to holistic supplement guru

master, I'm like, there's a connection there that I need to know about because you

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