Oh, Hey. Hey everybody welcome to another pop culture kiki as always it's me Kelly Williams

and Troy Mckee tea and Troy I don't think anything has happened since last Kiki.

No, I'm honestly it's been an extremely slow newsweek.

I didn't have a Notes app that was an ancient scroll like I actually literally had to be like I'm embarrassed by how many things I had to add to this

I'm gonna try and not have us be here for seven hours but I have like so much

shit to talk about. Well we know that everybody doesn't mind if you keep us here

for that long choice. So I genuinely just wanted to start with the

Travis and Taylor PR alleged PR like contract leaks all of that I mean I think that's what we're all here for

Troy what were your thoughts when you first saw this quote unquote leak on daily mail

Um that the times are changing. That the times are changing.

That the times are changing.

And we are now officially like in these two camps where it's like you are either a part of the masses and you still kind of believe everything that's given to you or you're a part of this other giant mass now of people that

understand PR relationships they understand how this shit works like people are

really like waking up I know I agree with you and the thing is I when these

docs first came out I did not think they were real for a second I was like these look fake and if anything obviously it's not a

contract but if anything it looks like a social media plan to me like as a

social media manager it looks like something something I would present to someone.

But now seeing how hard Taylor and Travis have leaned into the fact they're still together,

I am kind of like, oh, maybe there was something to this.

Okay, okay. So you think that they were maybe real? I don't know if they were real or still somehow planted by a team. Molly McPherson who I really

like on Tik-Toc. She made a good point to be like you know Travis's team could have leaked this to get more time with Taylor.

And yeah, I mean, when I think of Travis's manager, Jack, who we've talked about before, this man has written a book about blind items

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