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People I (Mostly) Admire

21. Pete Docter: “What If Monsters Really Do Exist?”

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

He’s the chief creative officer of Pixar, and the Academy Award-winning director of Soul, Inside Out, Up, and Monsters, Inc. Pete Docter and Steve talk about Pixar’s scrappy beginnings, why it costs $200 million to make an animated film, and the movie moment that changed Steve’s life.

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Monsters Inc. Up, Inside Out, and Soul. All four of these movies, critically-claimed

0:11.7

box office smashers, are the brainchild of Pete Docter. Fresh out of college, you

0:16.5

took a job as an animator at a small struggling firm that built computer hardware and made

0:20.7

TV commercials. 30 years later, that same firm Pixar is one of the most successful film

0:25.8

studios on the planet, and Pete Docter is its chief creative officer.

0:29.9

Welcome to People I mostly admire, with Steve Levitt.

0:39.0

Pete Docter already has two Academy Awards, and he's nominated for another this year for

0:43.6

directing the movie Soul. How does a mild-mannered Minnesota boy rise to the pinnacle of the film

0:49.5

industry? I have no idea. I'm also a mild-mannered Minnesota boy, almost the exact same age

0:56.0

as Pete Docter, and it's really hard for me to imagine how he pulled it off. And I have

1:01.0

to say, I'm a little bit jealous.

1:05.1

Pete Docter, it is an absolute joy to get to talk to you today. I've got six kids, and

1:15.2

I suspect I've spent more time watching your movies than just about anyone else. Thanks

1:19.2

for being here.

1:20.2

It's a pleasure to be here. Man, I'm sorry, six kids, it is a lot of kids.

1:23.8

I started over, which is a really unique situation where I've got four teenagers and two

1:28.3

toddlers, so I'm one of those rare people who gets the second chance to do better than

1:33.2

I did the first time.

1:34.2

There's a different the second time, and you feel like I'm a different parent.

1:37.9

You know, I really expected to feel very different, and I thought that I would be so much better,

1:43.1

but the reality is I was so sleep deprived the first time through. I can't remember any

1:47.4

of the lessons I was supposed to have learned. I think I'm just repeating almost all the

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