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Bad People

21. No Angel: When is spreading infectious diseases a crime?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Popstar Nadja Benaissa was convicted of recklessly transmitting HIV. She was blackmailed and attacked by the press. Did she deserve the hatred she received? On this episode of Bad People, presenters Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss whether knowingly spreading an infectious disease should be criminalised and what that means for COVID-19 rule breakers. Is consenting to getting HIV legally possible? What are the ethical problems raised by putting someone with HIV or AIDS in prison? And why are we obsessed with hunting down ‘patient 0’? Find out how all of these questions and more, apply to our psychology and behaviour during the COVID-19 pandemic. This episode includes citations from The Guardian Interview with Nadja Benaissa, ‘I knew I was HIV positive’. Warning: This episode contains strong language and references to HIV/AIDS, COVID-19, and drugs and addiction. Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producers: Louisa Field & Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Artwork: Kingsley Nebechi Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultants for The Open University: Dr. Zoe Walkington Dr. Camilla Elphick Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

0:03.7

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a Load of Sport Podcasts.

0:08.4

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with a leading journalist, experienced

0:12.2

pundits and the biggest sport stars.

0:14.3

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the players'

0:18.5

mouths.

0:19.5

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is our unique access to the sport in world.

0:25.0

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

0:28.8

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

0:31.2

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

0:35.8

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:40.8

Three, two, one.

0:46.8

Welcome back to Bad People, the show in which we undermine true crime.

0:50.8

Like all your favourite true crime podcasts, we explore fascinating and dark criminal cases.

0:56.8

But instead of treating the perpetrators as merely villains, we use these cases to explore

1:00.8

what research can tell us about why people do bad things.

1:03.8

On our show, you get fascinating crimes and science and ethical questions and disagreements.

1:12.8

I'm Dr. Julia Shaw, criminal psychologist and I'm so vegan stand up comedian.

1:17.8

Because of all of your love and support to dear listeners, we've been commissioned for

1:21.8

a huge amount of episodes.

1:23.8

You can expect regular episodes until at least 2022.

1:27.8

We look forward to spending more time with you, bringing you new cases and insights.

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