Hello, it is Owen Jones. Welcome to the podcast. Today Glen Greenwald. Now Glen Greenwald

is an award-winning Pulitzer winning journalist who I suppose is most famous for the Snowden

revelations a few years ago. But he's a kind of iconoclastic journalist. He's coming

to some controversy amongst a lot of progressives in the United States more recently because

of his critique, I suppose, of the Democratic Party establishment and appearance is on

on Fox News as well. I think he's a really interesting journalist. I actually respect

a lot of the journalism he's done over the years. He's an anti-authoritarian. He's also

done really good work on Brazil where the far right President Bolsonaro is obviously

wreaking mayhem. But I want to talk to him about our differences. I think this is a really

interesting discussion, just a bit of housekeeping. The podcast is all about offering an alternative

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I am very, very honored today to have one of the world's most distinguished journalists

and award-winning, a Pulitzer prize winning journalist no less. Glenn Greenwald. Glenn,

such an honor. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Oh, we were just talking about the fact

that we've been interacting for so many years on Twitter that I actually never realized

that this is the first time we've communicated more like human beings than before. So I'm

very excited to expand the nature of our interaction.

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