This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and today's show came about as this guest has been a phenomenal friend and advisor to me.

And in the chats that we have off record, on life, career, relationships, he always gives the best, best advice.

And I thought it would make for an amazing episode.

And so I'm thrilled to welcome back to the hot seat, Tony Fidel.

Keeping the bio short, he's often referred to as the father of the iPod and iPhone. He created

Nest, which he sold to Google for $3.2 billion, and now he's written Build most recently, one of

the best, and if you have not read that, then it's a total must. Again, this is a very wide-ranging

discussion on life between two friends. It is much less tech-centric than usual, but a fantastic discussion

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