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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

20VC: The Memo: Scaling to $600M Revenues with No Venture Funding, The Most In Detail Breakdown of Consumer Subscription Unit Economics & Why D2C and Consumer Subscription is Not a VC Backable Model with Mike Salguero, Founder @ ButcherBox

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC

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4.4637 Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Mike Salguero is the Founder and CEO @ ButcherBox, the meat delivery subscription service that he has scaled to $600M in revenue, 215 employees and the national leader in the space. All of this achieved while raising $0 of venture capital. Prior to ButcherBox, Mike was the Founder & CEO @ CustomMade, an online marketplace that, unlike ButcherBox, raised millions in venture funding from prominent VCs.

In Today's Episode with Mike Salguero We Discuss:

1.) The Makings of a Great Entrepreneur:

  • How did Mike's father not being present in his childhood impact the type of leader he is today?
  • How does Mike's fear of abandonment show itself in his leadership style?
  • What does Mike know now that he wishes he had known when he started?

2. Consumer Subscription is Not a VC Backabale Business Model:

  • Why does Mike believe consumer subscription D2C businesses are not VC backable?
  • What are the biggest challenges of running a consumer subscription business?
  • Why did all the D2C food prep and delivery companies fail? What did they do wrong?
  • What happens to all the heavily funded D2C subscription companies of the last 5 years?
  • Why does Mike believe now is the hardest time ever to do D2C consumer subscription?

3. The Secret to Efficient Marketing:

  • How did ButcherBox scale to $50M in revenue with just one marketing channel working?
  • When should founders think about the second channel? How should they choose which one?
  • Why does Mike not like "brand marketing"? How did ButcherBox burn $8.5M on brand marketing? What are Mike's biggest lessons from doing this?
  • What emerging channel does Mike see as having the biggest potential over the coming years?
  • Why does customer acquisition increase with time? Why do elections cause it to increase?

4. The Economics of a $600M Revenue ButcherBox:

  • How much does it cost ButcherBox to acquire a customer?
  • What is their payback period on that customer? How has this change with time?
  • What is the single metric that drives the profitability of ButcherBox?
  • What are the single biggest points of margin in the business?
  • What is the lifetime value of a ButcherBox subscriber?
  • What are the single biggest points of churn in the customer lifecycle?

5. Venture Capital: To Raise or Not to Raise:

  • Why did Mike never raise venture capital for ButcherBox?
  • Has Mike ever sold secondary? Why not?
  • What would Mike most like to change about the world of venture capital?
  • What are his biggest lessons from raising VC with CustomMade? How did that impact how he approached building ButcherBox?
  • What does Mike believe all founders need to know about raising VC?

Transcript

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0:00.0

The biggest problem is the no-brainer acquisition channels have really dried up. Last year,

0:06.9

we spent $8.5 million on brand marketing. It's a really tough time to be running DTC right now.

0:12.4

I'm not sure it's a VC backable model. This is 20VC, the memo with me, Harry Stebbings, and on the

0:17.9

memo, we feature the hypergrowth journey of a breakout company.

0:21.1

The other day I tweeted, I want to cover a breakout, bootstrapped company, and over 100 suggestions

0:26.2

came in for this one company alone. They're now at $600 million in revenue, the national leader,

0:32.4

215 employees, and all with no venture capital. I'm so thrilled to welcome Mike Salgoero, founder and

0:39.0

CEO at Butcher Box, to the hot seat today to share the epic journey of Butcher Box, becoming the

0:44.6

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