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20VC: First Round's Phin Barnes on How The Best Founders Optimize for Learning Per Dollar Spent, What Makes A Truly Special Founder/VC Relationship and Why Pattern Recognition is Another Term For Intellectual Laziness

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4.4637 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2018

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Phin Barnes is a Partner @ First Round Capital, one of the most prestigious and successful early-stage funds of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Uber, Square, Warby Parker, HotelTonight, GOAT, PatientPing, Atrium and more incredible companies. As for Phin, in his own words, he learned the business of startups helping grow AND1 from $15M to $225M in revenue as Creative Director for Footwear, and started his own fitness video-game company, producing Yourself!Fitness, the first game of its kind for Xbox and PlayStation 2 where he built partnerships with the likes of Procter & Gamble and McDonald’s. Phin also writes the most fantastic blog, sneakerheadVC, that really is a must read.

In Today’s Episode You Will Learn:

1.) How Phin came to be a Partner @ First Round by working for free, with no plans to be a Partner?

2.) What were Phin's biggest lessons from learning from and observing Josh Kopelman? How does Phin define true success as a VC today? Why is the model of determining success according to returns fundamentally flawed? How does Phin approach the need for VCs to be both curious and competitive? What is the nuance there?

3.) Why does Phin believe that the commonly discussed "pattern recognition" is another term for intellectual laziness? What does Phin do to prevent his forming assumptions on the founders he meets? Why does Phin fundamentally disagree with the common VC habit of looking for weaknesses in founders?

4.) Does Phin agree that we have an oversupply of capital in market today? How does Phin determine when a stretch on price is a stretch too far? Why does Phin think that more emphasis should be placed on the business model that VCs have? What does Phin mean when he says that he is on the "sell side"?

5.) What does Phin mean when he says that "VCs should focus on a founders ability to optimise for learning per dollar spent"? Is cash ever a defensible moat in it's own right? What does Phin believe is the right way for founders to use capital as a weapon?

6.) How does Phin and First Round think about the right way to allocate reserves effectively? What does that look like in reality? What does the decision-making process look like on re-investments? Why does Phin believe that the framework of "pro-rata is largely lazy?

Items Mentioned In Today’s Show:

Phin’s Fave Book: Writing Down the Bones: Freeing the Writer WithinBoyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War

Phin’s Most Recent Investment: Ubiquity6

As always you can follow HarryThe Twenty Minute VC and Phin on Twitter here!

Likewise, you can follow Harry on Instagram here for mojito madness and all things 20VC.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the 20 minute VC with me, Harry Stebbings, at H. Stebbings, 1996 with two B's on Instagram,

0:05.5

but straight in today, because I think this is simply one of the best shows we've ever done.

0:09.1

It was such a joy for me to do that the 20 minutes went out of the window, to be quite honest.

0:13.2

And so with that, I'm so thrilled to welcome Finn Barnes, partner at first round capital,

0:17.2

one of the most prestigious and successful early stage funds of the last decade,

0:21.1

with a portfolio including the lights of Uber, Square, Warby Parker, Hotel Tonight, goat, patient

0:26.9

ping, atrium, and many, many more incredible companies. As for Finn, in his own words,

0:31.5

he learnt the business of startups helping grow and won from $15 million to $225 million in revenue as creative director for footwear

0:39.7

and started his own fitness video game company producing yourself fitness the first game

0:44.1

of its kind for Xbox and PlayStation 2 where he also built partnerships with the likes of Procter

0:48.5

and Gamble and McDonald's and Finn also writes the most fantastic blog Sneakerhead VC that really

0:53.6

is a must read for me always.

0:55.0

And I'd also want to say a huge thank you to Finn's partners, Josh Copelman, Bill Trenchard, Rob Hayes, Haley Barner for the fantastic questions provided today.

1:02.0

I really do appreciate that.

1:04.0

But before we welcome Finn to the hot seat today, we mentioned some incredible companies in the intro there, and I want to spend a minute to talk about Brex. The first corporate card for startups, Brex founders Enrique M. Pedro built a payments business

1:15.4

in Brazil, but found themselves rejected for a corporate card when they were in Y Combinator.

1:19.9

They decided to build Brex with instant online sign-up, no founder liability required,

1:24.8

and limits 10 to 20 times higher than standard cards. Pretty incredible,

1:28.5

I know, and you can sign up for Brex today and get fees waived by entering the code Harry during

1:33.4

sign-up. Honestly, it really is such a special service. And with Brex's in place, we now need a team

1:38.5

to really use the cards, and that's where Terminal comes in. Terminal is a startup that appreciates.

1:43.3

Hiring amazing developers is

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