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20VC: Did Figma Kill M&A Markets in 2024, The Three Biggest Mistakes Made in Growth Investing, The Three Requirements Companies Need to Go Public in 2024 with Ed Sim and Jamin Ball

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

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4.4637 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Jamin Ball is a Partner @ Altimeter Capital where he sits on the board of Airbyte, Clickhouse, dbt Labs, Prisma, Tabular. Jamin has also led investments in Deel, MotherDuck, Personio and Starburst. Prior to Altimeter, Jamin spent 5 years at Redpoint where he led investments in Workato, Monte Carlo, Cityblock Health, Root Insurance.

Ed Sim is one of the best seed round investors in venture as the Founder and Managing Partner @ Boldstart, Ed focuses specifically on developer, infra and SaaS at pre-seed and seed round. Over the last decade, Ed has backed some of the best including Snyk, BigID, Kustomer, Front and Superhuman.

In Today's Episode We Discuss:

1. How to Invest Successfully in 2024:

  • What are the three biggest mistakes growth investors can make in 2024?
  • Why should founders not start a platform company?
  • What were Jamin and Ed's biggest mistakes from the ZIRP era?
  • How does Jamin justify paying an $8BN price for Hopin? What were his lessons?

2. The M&A Markets in 2024:

  • Did Figma kill the M&A markets for 2024? What should we expect in M&A?
  • Why will private companies buying private companies be a massive segment in 2024?
  • What are Ed and Jamin's biggest tips to founders considering selling their company in 2024?

3. When Will IPOs Come Back:

  • What will be the catalyst to the opening of the IPO markets?
  • Will Stripe and Databricks go public in 2024? What others should we expect?
  • What are the three requirements for a company to go public in 2024?

4. Firesales: Investors Need Cashback:

  • Why does Ed believe now is the time in the cycle where late-stage investors want cash back to distribute back to their LPs or to recycle?
  • What should we expect to see in terms of acqui-hires and firesales?
  • What are the different incentives when comparing founders vs early stage VCs vs late stage VCs when it comes to acquisitions?

Transcript

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0:00.0

From a regulation standpoint, it is really hard to see any large-scale MNA right now. If you're going to go public, I think you've got to be cash flow break-even. You have to have 30% plus growth. You know, you've got to be moving towards a rule of 40 or 50, in my opinion, slanted more towards growth than you are cash flow break-even. This shit is really fucking hard and it takes a long time. So you've got to be patient. This is the time to put money to work. This is going to be an amazing vintage.

0:24.8

This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and over the weekend I saw Ed Sim at Bold Star write a tweet

0:30.1

about why we were at a time in the cycle where late stage investors would rather get their

0:35.2

cash back from investments to either reinvest, known as recycling,

0:39.7

or redistribute to LPs. I wanted to dig in on this, and so I invited Ed, founder at Bold Start,

0:45.8

and then one of the most thoughtful multi-stage investors, I think, jam-in-balled Altimeter,

0:50.6

to really deep dive on liquidity, IPOs, M&A, fundraising in 2024, and a lot more about

0:58.1

the state of venture today in this new world. But before we dive into the show state, there's

1:03.0

no shortage of helpful AI tools out there, but using them means switching back and forth

1:07.7

between yet another digital tool. What was supposed to simplify your

1:11.5

workflow just made it way more complicated, unless of course you're in Notion. In Notion, you can

1:17.1

automate the tedious tasks like summarizing meeting notes or finding next steps, really freeing

1:22.9

you up to do the deep work that we all want to do. And that's why Notion is used by over 50%, 50% of Fortune 500 companies, and teams that use Notion, send less emails, cancel more meetings and reduce spending on tools.

1:38.1

Try Notion for free when you go to notion.com slash 20VC. And speaking of amazing products like Notion there, I'd like to talk to you

1:46.2

about a company called Digits. They're a full-service AI accounting company, and if you're in need

1:51.2

of an accountant or looking to switch, there's no better solution than Digits. Starting at just

1:55.9

$350 a month, which is less than half of what you'd pay a traditional firm, Digits is the

2:01.7

most accurate, most efficient solution on the market. They've developed proprietary AI technology

2:07.0

that automates tedious financial tasks and delivers reports to the actual close of the month,

2:12.1

not two to three weeks later as always. And they also allow you to keep track of key metrics

2:16.9

like revenue, burn, cash flow and

2:19.3

runway in an incredible live dashboard. The best part of all of it, this is vetted and signed off

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