20VC: Are Burn Multiples BS in an AI World | Sam Altman Needs $1TRN of Energy | Klarna, Figma, Stubhub, all Down: Are Public Markets Turning? | FiveTran and DBT: Is the Wave of Consolidation About to Begin?
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
The Twenty Minute VC
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🗓️ 2 October 2025
⏱️ 77 minutes
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AGENDA:
03:58 Understanding Burn Multiples and Capital Efficiency in an AI World
11:54 What Metrics Founders Need to Focus on in a World of AI
19:31 The Role of Kingmakers in Venture Capital: Harvey, Abridge, Profound
33:42 Klarna, Figma, Stubhub, all Down: Are Public Markets Turning?
36:35 OpenAI Needs the Same Energy as Japan… WTF!
41:09 How Can We Fund the $1TRN Sam Altman Needs for Energy
52:39 FiveTran and DBT: Is the Wave of Consolidation About to Begin?
59:44 Does Private Equity Need to Change in a World of AI
01:06:23 Political Expression and Corporate Responsibility
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| 0:00.0 | There's only two ways of pricing a deal. You price a deal on Hope or your price a deal on the multiples. A $15 million revenue company that's perfectly good and has reasonable growth is actually of zero value to a VC because we're in the upside option game. And I hear too many folks and they're like, oh, you're triple, triple, double, double or better. You're golden. Don't worry, kids. And I think that's terrible, |
| 0:21.1 | terrible advice in 2025. Terrible advice. Whatever the prize is for being the best company in AI, |
| 0:27.0 | Open AI is going to get that price. Have a great day. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stavingson, |
| 0:31.6 | is my favorite show of the week. Jason Lemkin and Rio Driscoll are back to shoot the shit on the |
| 0:36.9 | biggest news in tech. Today, we have |
| 0:39.3 | Sam Altman needing a trillion dollars to fund energy requirements that are the same as Japan. |
| 0:45.6 | We have the largest LBO ever in EA. We have Figma down. We have Klanarna down. We have Stubb |
| 0:53.3 | down. It does get more optimistic. Don't worry. And it is a |
| 0:57.8 | fantastic show as always. I want your feedback. Let me know what I can do to make these shows better for you, |
| 1:02.9 | Harry at 20VC.com. But before we dive into the show today, let's talk about agents, specifically |
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| 1:59.9 | And while Piper build your pipeline, |
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