I think models over time get more different rather than more similar.

I still think we are in like day one around is AI an indispensable part of most people's work.

And I think the answer is no.

I think the deep sink piece, people seem surprised that there were cutting edge research teams there.

And if you were paying attention, that part should not have been the surprising piece.

I think we've, if anything, underinvested a bit in two things. One is just having a faster

duration speed on first party products. And then on the second part on the API side.

This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings. And today our guest is incredible. Mike Krieger, co-founder of Instagram and now CPO at Anthropic,

one of the best placed individuals to speak about the state of models today and where they are going.

This was an incredible discussion for me to have, and I so appreciate Mike being so open.

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