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🗓️ 21 September 2020
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Last week you heard Part 1 of David’s TEAM Therapy session with Neil Sattin, who became pretty despondent and discouraged right after the first shut down because of the covid-19 pandemic in March of 2020. David and Neil went through the T = Testing and E = Empathy parts of TEAM, and David helped Neil develop a Daily Mood Log so he could record his negative thoughts and feelings at one specific moment at the end of a day when he was feeling like he hadn’t gotten enough work done. Perhaps you’ve had the same problem at times!
Today you’ll hear the A = Assessment of Resistance and M = Methods parts of the session. As they begin, David asks Neil the Magic Button and Miracle Cure questions, and Neil says that he definitely does want help and would push the Magic Button to make all of his negative thoughts and feelings on his Daily Mood Log disappear.
David cautions against that and suggests Positive Reframing, asking two questions about each negative thought and feeling.
Here’s Neil’s list of Positives:
My sadness:
My anxiety:
My guilt:
My feelings of defectiveness and inadequacy:
My feelings of being alone show that:
My feelings of embarrassment and humiliation show that:
My discouragement shows that:
My frustration shows that:
Feeling annoyed and irritated:
Feeling overwhelmed:
After listing these positives, Neil used the Magic Dial and indicated that he’d like to dial down his negative feelings to lower levels, rather than getting rid of them entirely, as you can see in the “% Goal” column of his Daily Mood Log.
Then they moved on to M = Methods, focusing first on Neil’s Negative Thought (NT):
“I’m not capable of getting organized. After identifying a number of distortions in the thought, Neil was able to generate a positive thought that fulfilled the necessary and sufficient conditions for emotional change:
You can see this on his DML. David and Neil used a variety of techniques, including Externalization of Voices, to challenge the rest of his NTs. Neil re-rated his negative feelings at the end of the session. They all feel to zero except feeling alone, which went from 80 to 5, which was his goal.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. |
0:16.3 | I am your host, Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. |
0:22.6 | Dr. David Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new teen therapy. |
0:29.6 | He is the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. David is currently an |
0:39.3 | emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine. |
0:45.9 | Hello, Rhonda. Hi, David. It's such a cheerful way to begin every episode with a hardy laugh. |
0:56.8 | Welcome, everyone. This is episode 209, and this is our part two of the personal work that you did with Neil Satin. |
1:06.5 | And I don't think we need much to, in the introduction, right, David? |
1:10.3 | In the first session, |
1:11.9 | you empathized with him, you did testing, you filled out the daily mood log with him. |
1:17.9 | We also, you know, had a kind of a 15-minute introduction to who he was and he shared that |
1:23.9 | the work that you did do together, you know, it was very long lasting up till today. |
1:28.9 | You did that work in March, and this is going to be posted in September. And so in this |
1:35.0 | session, you're going to be going over the assessment of resistance with him, and then you went |
1:39.8 | into methods with him. Is that right? Yes, absolutely. And I think you, and it's, it was a wonderful |
1:48.5 | session, and I think Neil got a lot of great feedback because he's sharing himself so openly. |
1:55.6 | It was really just a joy of working, working with him and an honor as well. |
2:02.9 | I think you have a nice endorsement to read, a little quickie. |
2:07.8 | I do. |
2:08.2 | I have a quickie to read about episode 187, and that was the one where you did live |
2:14.0 | therapy with Michael, the awesome Atlanta team therapy demo. And this is from Alice |
2:18.7 | Jen's. And she wrote to you and said, wow, this was incredibly powerful to listen to. And I've |
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