To teach children that they have a condition they were born in that is fundamentally evil, wrong,

dangerous, despicable, and that there is a perfect and loving God who deeply longs to be in a relationship with them,

but their condition of their very existence

is so detestable to that perfect God

that he had to kill his child about it.

Just because hundreds of thousands of people are teaching this to children, does that mean it's okay?

Boy, have I got a great guest for you today in the form of Holly Laurent.

Holly is a performer director,

podcaster and comedian, many many more things too. We are not defined by the

titles that we have, but she's lots of things, she's a lot of fun, and she

breaks down her own background growing up in an evangelical

believing believer family around the mega churches and all that stuff, and we delve into the philosophy of everything with great humor and chat and

fun so this is one of those great episodes that I hope feels fun and elucidating to

listen in on and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Please always support the guests

they're giving up their time to come on so the least we can do is check out their works of art.

In Holly's case, it's her comedy podcast mega, which is about mega churches and it's a

scripted and fun podcast dripping in irony and is a really interesting and

fun experience for people who are into cults and extreme religion and ideology so a lot of you guys.

Also check out Holly's brilliant short film brought to you by Satan. It really is a lot of well fun

and fear and sort of scary, but it's just right, it's just a right mix of all of those

things. You'll see what I mean, it's really great. I hope you're all keeping well. Thank you again for

sticking with the podcast through thick and thin. It's approaching

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