On the Pilot TV Podcast this week, we're solving crimes from behind bars with Stanley

Tucci in Inside Man on BBC One, being a thorn in the galactic empire side with Diego

Luna in Andor on Disney Plus, and coming out of retirement to kill the shit out of a

bunch of people with Jeff Bridges in the Old Man, and speaking of Jeff Bridges, the dude

himself stopped by the podcast this week to share guitar tips with me. And Boyd had a lovely

chat with Harry Laughty to discuss industry series two.

I'm James Dyer and welcome to the Pilot TV Podcast, your weekly guide to every show that matters,

and a podcast it has at least 800% cooler this week for having had Jeffrey Lebowski

share the same rare fight air as us this week. The dude on this podcast, I'm so excited,

I can't get over it. This isn't an arm, nor is it bowling, but there are rules, and one of them

is of course, that I'm accompanied by my two co-hosts and first up Pilot TV's very own Walter

Subcheck, you want a toe? He can get you a toe. It's Boyd Hilton.

Yes, I am here and ready, and Jealousy got to speak to Jeff Bridges for this week.

It was exciting. Atta Basterd. Yes, that's fair. Also with us, of course, is our very own

Donnie. She's out of her element. It's Beth Webb. Hello. Yep. And of course, you two may not

agree that I am the dude of this particular dynamic, but that's like your opinion, man.

I mean, who are we to argue? Are you a good bowler? No, okay. So when I was at university, we used to

do a thing where we would go quasar and bowling. There was a bowling alley and they had obviously

the lanes and they also had quasar. And it was like literally like three pounds for quasar

and bowling. And that was your whole evening. And I would win at quasar every single week. Top

gun every single time. When it came to bowling, fucked it. That's terrible. I have a bowling

trauma as well. Oh, yeah. I'd never ever been bowling in my life until I was about,

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