Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. Let's flip that around.

I also think big bucks can be found in some of that flatter desert country that's maybe more open, more oquetio, more, you know,

deserty, from a standpoint of maybe that country doesn't get overlooked.

Dwayne made a good point about, you know, the middle of the mountain and he finds

the area either high or way low.

What's your thoughts on bucks that are that are down in the desert or you know down on the

transition where the desert floor you know just hits the hills what's your thought on finding

a big buck low? Well it's certainly possible you know you got guys

killing really big bucks down low every year and I think that with the deer

densities being lower that is certainly keeping the majority of the hunters out of there.

You know, I can tell you that the buck that I killed just a few days ago

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he he was he happened to be in some lower country

and but it's it's it's kind of not easy easily accessible and the deer density is low and

and frankly that's what I had that day was I needed a day hunt and I didn't have time to backpack in anywhere and we were

fortunate enough to find that deer and he's a great buck, a buck that most people would love to shoot.

Yeah, it's like 108 or 9 inches, isn't he?

Yeah, yeah, he went, he scored 109 inches.

Yeah, beautiful buck.

How many bucks? How many big bucks, how many bucks, how many bucks, you know, let's say 105 or better. I mean, how many of those have you killed? Have you

killed a bunch of big, big bucks? No, I really haven't Jay. I shot I've killed two bucks over 120 I shot

that 109 inch buck, not just a few days ago, and I've killed a few others in the

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