Hey everyone welcome back to the screen writing life. I'm Lorian McKenna and I'm Jeff Graham

aka producer Jeff. Unfortunately Meg can't join us this week, but we are really excited to welcome

Legendary Development and Hollywood Story analyst Chris Vogler, author of The Writers Journey, a book I love and I used to teach.

Chris is a development executive story analyst and screenwriter who has worked for Disney Studios, Fox 2,000 pictures, and Warner Brothers, in addition to contributing

story material to the Disney animated feature, The Lion King.

Chris's Book, The Writers Journey, Mythic Structure for Writers, is a widely celebrated screenwriting theory book focused on classic storytelling models that date back to ancient myths and how those models feature prominently even in modern storytelling.

Welcome to the show, Chris. We're really excited to have you.

Well, thank you both. This is terrific, you know, and it's right on theme for me because the title of my best known book is the writer's journey and so I wanted to describe the typical dramatic story of the hero on a journey, but also the life of the writer.

And I've always been interested in that because they mirror each other.

What goes on in the drama goes on in the dramatic, very dramatic

sometimes life of the writer and I have hoped that my work has given some guidelines through that adventure of writing and I have found

these ideas useful for me in my own writing life.

Awesome. Well, so this applies. So before we get into the interview, we're going to do

adventures and screen writing where we talk about our weeks. And Chris, you have agreed

to do this with us. I'll go first as always and so what you just said so mirrors what I'm going on what's going on with me right now is that I am very stuck in Act 1 in my life and my process,

which is then being reflected in my writing, right?

So everything is fine, I don't have a problem,

I'll keep doing exactly what I'm doing,

except there is a very obvious problem and even though I know how to solve it I'm just not doing it

because of fear of success or feel a failure I don't even know but it's definitely the fear of the unknown.

And I really don't want to be a reluctant hero, but here I am, stuck in Act 1.

So because of my resistance to action in my life I'm noticing the same

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