build the brand, stretch the team, make a bigger bet.

If we lose, we will survive and we'll still be better for it because sometimes you win,

sometimes you learn and that was my mindset and then we leaned in once he said yes and we then had to wire the money. I'm going to happen but here we are we're finally

here Sean Cannell rhymes with YouTube channel he's written the book YouTube secrets

along with his friend Benji who we've chatted with right so if So if you want to know all things,

YouTube, and he also has his channel that we're chasing in full

transparency, I'm chasing you. We're getting closer and then you put some

distance between us and I don't like that. tell my team let's catch up to think media

you review all kinds of camera gear you have tips you have a lot of different creators so there's a

diversity of voices and talent but I'm not here to talk to you about that. I'm not. I, through your generosity, was able to

ten Grow with Video Live, I know a couple months ago, in Las Vegas. And first, it was great, It was a well-run production top to bottom.

Yet superstars, Sean.

Yet superstars like, oh, I don't know, like Gary Vainerchuck,

Patrick Bet David, the Hermozies, and Ryan Paneda, you had a lot of people on stage with

you and it was awesome to see.

And as a content creator, I want to know what drove you to go to this scale. Yes, well

Chris, thank you first and foremost for coming on the show, love and respect your

work so much and all the impact you're making in the world.

This could be a fun conversation because it's been such a journey to what was officially

Grow with Video Live Five. And so it was our fifth event was our fifth year we never missed a year

ever since we started and we went to like you said scale we really scaled up way beyond our comfort level.

The story we're about to get into, I guess, in this conversation

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