On the Pilot TV podcast this week, we're investigating a cold case with Lauren Kyle in Karen

Piri on ITV, caught in a crossfire with Keely Hors in, well, Crossfire on BBC One and taking

a long, hard look at the history of humanity with Diane Morgan who slips into the skin of

Filomena Cunquants more in Cunquon Earth. Plus, we're joined by Ema Kenney, the creator

of Karen Piri, who's stopped by the pod to talk about bringing this Karen to life.

I'm James Dyer, and welcome to the Pilot TV podcast. You're a weekly guide to every show

that matters, and a podcaster would like to say to the cast and creators of Better Call

Saul, we appreciate you, even if the Emmys refuse to. But before we get into all things,

Emmys, I am not here alone, but rather joined by two other sort of, like minded TV files.

On the one hand, it is Pilot TV's very own Lalo Salamanca, except the cartel could never

afford a TV the size of his. It's Boyd Hilton.

Very good. Very good. The last six episodes of Better Call Saul will be eligible for next

years. They will. Yes, I know that. I know that. Let's not forget.

So yeah, okay, we'll get onto that. And also with us in the hot seat is Pilot's Mike

Irman Trout, and you'll never get half measures from Kay Rebeiro.

Hi. Hello. Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm good. I should point out to her from

Winner Winner. We're due to a studio booking snafu. We're in a new studio this week. And

the chairs are very low. I know. And the desk is very high. So we have this whole hobbit

thing where we're just peering over the desk at kind of head height. We could just see

the tops of each other's heads. It's quite weird. I've kind of sitting on my leg and

already losing circulation. Just to give you that little bit of extra weight. I've done

two legs. I'm going to leave that. Double leg situation. Maybe I should go for that.

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