Go find something to do that's not working for the family business.

Because your dad didn't want to work with you?

I don't think my dad wanted to work with me at that point now.

So I have a degree in fine art.

I made a living as an artist.

I have like a minor in art history.

Like I did everything I could to not be employable after I got

out of school.

The following special podcast recorded at the recent Fine Home Building Summit. For the podcast,

I was joined by Brian Pontalillo, editor of Green Building Advisor, Maria Klemperer Johnson,

instructor at the Residential Construction Program at the State University of New York at Delhi,

Jake Bruton of Avero Building in Columbia, Missouri, and architect Steve BASIC.

Because of some problems with the recording, we'll jump right in with Maria talking about teaching at SUNY Delhi.

Last year, last spring, and we built a little 12 by 16 shed, timber frame shed.

And the final for that class was the raising of that timber frame.

We raised it in our masonry lab.

Cool.

And then sold it. And so it's a

lot of our projects, actually Delhi is a great

program. The students all do work on real projects.

We have a new construction build for the freshmen.

Their first semester is spent framing that house,

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