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Welcome in, everybody, to Fantasy Pros.

This is the Fantasy Football Podcast.

It's me, Joey Pee.

Joe Pisa Pia.

And it's time to do some work on 2025, a little post-mortem, kind of look at where the strategies

were, what we can learn going into the 2020-6 season, and who better to do a case study, a post-mortem with, than Jake Sealy, my good pal from the athletic, and my patty cakes, Pat Fitzmores. Pat was a late to the show today. We thought maybe he was still in mourning from the Packers' loss, but, uh, Pat, I just want to know, is it too soon? Because I got my cheese grater out here. Is it a little too early? I thought the grater was really funny. I'm sure you don't find it as a music. The grater was funny. The grater was funny. Okay. See, I knew you would appreciate the grater. Yes, I do appreciate the graders. And I don't begrudge Bears fans

their joy. I've sort of, as

a Packer fan living here behind enemy lines

in the Chicago land area,

I've had my fun for the last

25 plus years with this

series. So I haven't had to hear

a lot from Bears fans, but I'm hearing

from them now. And

yeah, they're turning me into a Rams fan, Joe.

Something we never thought possible. Do you like the tension rivalry building? I mean, Ben Johnson

walked in there and in his press conference, he was talking crap with the Packers. And then after the

game, obviously, he's talking crap. You know, we and then after the game, obviously, talking crap.

You know, we're in this era where, you know, I love the sportsmanship. It's fun when everybody's exchanging jerseys at the end of games, but there's something also kind of fun about two teams in the same division that don't like each other, that kind of, you know, back in the old days, rivalry stuff that we don't have as much of. and I feel like I'm kind of here for it.

Are you here for it too as a Packers fan who's really, you know, got their finger on the pulse of it? Yeah, I mean, if Ben Johnson wants to go down that road and it appears he does, I know now that both Packers fans and Lions fans hate him pretty much. And, you know, Matt LaFleure's friends around the league, I'm sure, who are seeing this and probably would like to stick it to Ben Johnson as a result. So, yeah, if he wants to do it, that's fine. But, you know, I'm not a Ben Johnson fan these days. So it's a good coach. It's a good coach without question. I mean, he made some pretty aggressive fourth down decisions in that game that didn't really work out for him and his team bailed him out.

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