2019: Part 2

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast

The Snakes & Studio71

Society & Culture, Music, Music Commentary

4.8 • 826 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 114 minutes

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GET TICKETS TO EOAS LIVE: https://www.evolutionofasnake.com In Part 2 of our 2019 deep dive, we enter the chaos: the Scooter Braun betrayal, the fallout over Taylor’s masters, and the eerie silence from Karlie Kloss. We also dig into the Lover era in full—every track, every Instagram Live, every pastel misstep. From the disjointed rollout to the underwhelming commercial performance and shifting critical reception, we unpack how Lover aimed for lightness but landed in something much murkier. And yes… there’s still more. Part 3 coming soon. 💘 https://bit.ly/evolutionofasnake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:48.6	slash defense. Certain terms apply, so be sure to check the site for details. Welcome back to Evolution of a Snake
0:54.8	v. Taylor Swift podcast. I'm Zach. And I'm Madeline. And this is the long-awaited, much-demanded,
1:01.7	2019 part two. I'm going to give you the good and the bad news. The good news is 2019 part two is here.
1:07.3	The bad news is 2019 part three needs to exist. Yeah, it's actually crazy. You wouldn't
1:12.4	believe how long the notes are for 2019 part 2. And you wouldn't believe what gets left off because
1:16.4	we didn't have enough time. And you wouldn't believe how much stuff there is to cover.
1:20.8	So much stuff. This was a year of chaos, of nonsense. The master recordings really threw a spanner in the works when it comes to talking about,
1:30.9	you know, the details of what's gone on.
1:32.9	And our project is to be as thorough and as detailed as possible.
1:36.2	And this specific issue is something that we want to spend a lot of time talking about
1:40.5	because it's essential and integral to the lore, to the canon.
1:45.8	And we really want to make sure that we get Taylor's perspective out there properly. And we honor that. So that is why you will
1:51.5	have 2019 part three. Do not ask when because we don't know. It's a feather on the breath of God.
1:57.0	What we do know is that we will be on the Snara's tour merely a few days after you
2:02.4	receive this episode. And our opening night show, New York City, is almost sold out. Maybe it's
2:07.8	sold out by the time this comes out. If it's not, Evolutionofa Snake.com come by tickets to see us at the
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